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| Stef914 |
 Jun 4 2024, 12:40 AM
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| burton73 |
Jun 4 2024, 08:49 AM
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Senior member, and old dude Group: Members Posts: 3,822 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California 
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Thanks Stef
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| Geezer914 |
Jun 4 2024, 09:31 AM
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Geezer914 Group: Members Posts: 1,922 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States
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Thanks for posting this. They really put it through a tough test, no holds barred. Wider rims and tires and your close to race car handling!
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| NARP74 |
Jun 4 2024, 11:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,370 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Not Top Gear, but very thorough as expected.
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| technicalninja |
Jun 4 2024, 12:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,531 Joined: 31-January 23 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 27,135 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Close captioning by Sir Andy! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| jc73-914 |
Jun 4 2024, 12:24 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 28-May 15 From: Richmond, B.C. Canada Member No.: 18,769 Region Association: Canada
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| Root_Werks |
Jun 4 2024, 02:23 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,667 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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That was awesome, thanks for posting!
Watching the guy man handle the top was hard. No wonder why almost every targa top has chipped corners and edges! |
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| johnhora |
Jun 4 2024, 03:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Derby City KY Member No.: 107 Region Association: None
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Cool video...thanks for posting.
Got to love the water test... Agree Root_Werks...kind of ruff with the roof...did you notice he installed the roof with the front latches to the rear of the car....interesting |
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| SirAndy |
Jun 4 2024, 03:53 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,205 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(technicalninja @ Jun 4 2024, 11:06 AM)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| wonkipop |
Jun 4 2024, 03:57 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,757 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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nice stuff.
i saw that clip a few years back. the wheelman is a classic german for 1969 - certainly gives it a bit of stick on its skinny little tyres and gets the tail out a few times very nicely.. |
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| wonkipop |
Jun 4 2024, 04:13 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,757 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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ps - given its the IAA show in frankfurt where that is filmed its probably a car off the stand when the 914 was launched. there is another clip on youtube with the same guy at the show also taking it out for a run. i'm wondering where he takes the car in this clip.it could be the VW test track facility but it also looks vaguely like the mercedes test track in a couple of the scenes.
i tripped over a big batch of photos of the launch and posted them up in originality section. the car probably has a fully carpeted front trunk. and no karmann plate in the front door jamb. they seemed to be all pre-production cars specially prepared for the launch. very early in the production run for sure. |
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| Shivers |
Jun 4 2024, 04:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,980 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 4 2024, 02:53 PM) QUOTE(technicalninja @ Jun 4 2024, 11:06 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) That was very helpful. Thank you |
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| Osnabruck914 |
Jun 4 2024, 05:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 19-December 22 From: United States Member No.: 27,038 Region Association: South East States |
Not only does he manhandle the roof, but at 04:30 he places it in the trunk BACKWARDS!! They must have edited the clip, as he then is able to secure it with the rear rubber retainers as normal.
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| bkrantz |
Jun 4 2024, 08:48 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,360 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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QUOTE(Geezer914 @ Jun 4 2024, 09:31 AM) Thanks for posting this. They really put it through a tough test, no holds barred. Wider rims and tires and your close to race car handling! In April 1973 Car and Driver published a comparison of sports cars then eligible for SCCA Showroom Stock racing. They generally liked the 914 (only the 1.7 was eligible). But they only got 3rd place lap times at Ontario Motor Speedway's road course. And they blamed that on the standard 4.5" wheel width (again, no upgrades allowed). Wider wheels might have helped the 914 take the pole. BTW, that article first sparked my interest in the 914. But I couldn't resist wanting to own the winner of the comparison, and thus my first ever car was a Fiat 124 Spider. I got that as a mild wreck from an insurance salvage yard. That also was the start of my auto repair and restoration hobby, otherwise known as a lifetime addiction. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| DennisV |
Jun 8 2024, 02:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 607 Joined: 8-August 20 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 24,575 Region Association: Northern California
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What a great video! Quite comprehensive. Where do people dig up these clips from 1969 to digitize them?!
@sirandy The subtitles are greatly appreciated! I was hoping they'd get around to including the 914-6 as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
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| gulf908 |
Jun 8 2024, 09:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 128 Joined: 25-December 13 From: Sydney Member No.: 16,795 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
agree - did they ever do a test on an early 914-6 ?
I looked a while ago and couldn't see anything cheers Dennis (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| wonkipop |
Jun 9 2024, 01:23 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,757 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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i checked my hunch that much of this is filmed at the mercedes test track.
the one with the vertical banked turn!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) pity they did not film the 914 being taken around that crazy curve. although there looks to be one bit where they are lower down on it but not on the vert bit. probably mercedes did not give permission for anyone but mercedes test drivers on mercedes business to use that section of track? you can recognize all the parts being used in the program. including the getting blown sideways machine. don't think either VW or porsche had anything quite able to rival this facility back then.    only very slightly off topic. this film is interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq-NOhmn3UE not a 914 but is mid engined and is from stuttgart. on the test track and on the vertical curve. the footage inside the cars on the curve is fantastic. my business partner's father worked for mercedes right around this time in the late 60s through to early 70s. he was employed as a test driver. you got sacked if you did not enter this curve at precisely the calculated speed and failed to hold the speed constant. |
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| Stef914 |
Jun 9 2024, 10:42 PM
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human Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: 21-July 21 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 25,745 Region Association: Southern California |
Wow ! Cool video … what an exiting era must have been …
Thanks for sharing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jun 9 2024, 02:23 AM) i checked my hunch that much of this is filmed at the mercedes test track. the one with the vertical banked turn!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) pity they did not film the 914 being taken around that crazy curve. although there looks to be one bit where they are lower down on it but not on the vert bit. probably mercedes did not give permission for anyone but mercedes test drivers on mercedes business to use that section of track? you can recognize all the parts being used in the program. including the getting blown sideways machine. don't think either VW or porsche had anything quite able to rival this facility back then. only very slightly off topic. this film is interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq-NOhmn3UE not a 914 but is mid engined and is from stuttgart. on the test track and on the vertical curve. the footage inside the cars on the curve is fantastic. my business partner's father worked for mercedes right around this time in the late 60s through to early 70s. he was employed as a test driver. you got sacked if you did not enter this curve at precisely the calculated speed and failed to hold the speed constant. |
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