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| LongARM |
 Sep 12 2005, 07:34 PM
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it's better to burn-out , then it is to rust  Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 6-March 05 From: Kingston Ontario Canada Member No.: 3,720  |
anyone with 914s using anything other than gasoline. please post a picture ,and your story.(ie electrics,alcohol,steam,solar, nuclear,etc)
i believe that there are some members with electric motor setups(can't remember her name) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) |
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| swood |
Sep 12 2005, 07:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,839 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Strong Beach Member No.: 251 Region Association: None |
....uhhhhh....How about deleting a few of these repetative posts??
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| LongARM |
Sep 12 2005, 07:46 PM
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it's better to burn-out , then it is to rust Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 6-March 05 From: Kingston Ontario Canada Member No.: 3,720 |
uuhhhhh i only posted 1.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/type.gif)
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| Gint |
Sep 12 2005, 07:48 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,098 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
No.... You posted at least 5. I moved the others to the recycle bin. |
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| LongARM |
Sep 12 2005, 07:50 PM
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it's better to burn-out , then it is to rust Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 6-March 05 From: Kingston Ontario Canada Member No.: 3,720 |
nope ...i clicked it once
hmmmmmmmmm |
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| Rider914 |
Sep 12 2005, 07:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: 13-April 04 From: Palm Beach Member No.: 1,923 |
DMN
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| LongARM |
Sep 12 2005, 07:50 PM
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it's better to burn-out , then it is to rust Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 6-March 05 From: Kingston Ontario Canada Member No.: 3,720 |
but thanx Gint
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| sgomes |
Sep 12 2005, 08:43 PM
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Electric Member Group: Members Posts: 815 Joined: 6-May 04 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 2,029 |
ok, I'll bite... progress thread is in my sig.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Otmar I think is still recovering from burning man... |
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| lapuwali |
Sep 12 2005, 08:57 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
As bad as you may find gas prices, using almost anything else is actually more expensive, at least in the short term. E85 (85% ethanol), for example, is about equivalent to gasoline at $3.50/gallon when you do the numbers per mile.
Electricity is very cheap to run (like pennies per "tank"), but the conversion costs are still very steep. $10K is pretty much as low as you could reasonably go, and $15K would not be at all out of line. $15,000 will buy nearly 4300 gallons of $3.50 gas, or nearly 270 tankfuls, or about 5 years of gas if you drive the car quite regularly. A set of batteries is roughly $1000, and may last you 2-3 years if you're careful. Range is still fairly poor (figure 130-150 miles at best), and you're adding at least 1000lbs to the car, so handling typically goes right into the toilet. Shannon Gomes on this board has a delightful 914 that's been converted to all-electric, but he's looking at several more years of driving it before it starts to pay off in cheaper running costs. The only pure electrics for sale that perform better than a golf cart are in the $50K and up price range, except a few home-builts, which, for the most part, are only fast in a straight line. If the economies of scale every get around to making the electronics cheap enough, and batteries got a better power-to-weight ratio, an electric could be a killer deal. |
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| flyloki |
Sep 12 2005, 11:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 20-October 03 From: 8:00 in Boise, Idaho Member No.: 1,264 |
Dude here in boise has a 914 with a VW 1.6 turbo diesel (68hp). Accelerates pretty nicelydue to good torque, gets over 50 mpg he says.
Pretty cool I think. I'm looking for a good roller and TDI (easily chipped to 130hp with bigger injectors). Plus you can run biodiesel. Figure 2k for tdi motor, add $500 for adapter plate, $200? for rad, fans and water lines, $100 make your own motor mount. Various other sundries..$? |
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| swl |
Sep 13 2005, 05:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,409 Joined: 7-August 05 From: Kingston,On,Canada Member No.: 4,550 Region Association: Canada |
Hmm - TDI in 914, very interesting. If I ever loose the 1.7 that would be a very cool alternative. Any idea who does the conversion plate?
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| mikelsr |
Sep 13 2005, 06:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 657 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Mahomet, IL Member No.: 3,390 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Here is one from Rantoul IL. For some reason they didn't include the pictures that were in the paper.
Electric 914 |
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| Pnambic |
Sep 13 2005, 07:19 AM
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Honk if you like obscene gestures! Group: Members Posts: 914 Joined: 9-April 03 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 546 Region Association: South East States |
Kenedy Engineering looks to be a great place for adaptor plates and such. They have a list of engines adaptors they make, but I didn't specifically see TDI listed anywhere on the list. Call 'em up!
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| airsix |
Sep 13 2005, 11:23 AM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
I run mine on huge amounts of air with just a little gasoline mixed in. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) -Ben M. |
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| LongARM |
Sep 14 2005, 06:38 PM
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it's better to burn-out , then it is to rust Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 6-March 05 From: Kingston Ontario Canada Member No.: 3,720 |
thanx shannon thats the link i was thinking of..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)
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| LongARM |
Sep 14 2005, 06:40 PM
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it's better to burn-out , then it is to rust Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 6-March 05 From: Kingston Ontario Canada Member No.: 3,720 |
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| buck toenges |
Sep 14 2005, 07:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 25-November 03 From: Fort wayne In Member No.: 1,388 Region Association: None 
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I would love to tdi a 914. Where can you get a tdi for 2 grand? Who makes an adapter for it? I would also love to tdi a jeep wrangler. That tdi has as much torque as a jeep 4 cylinder.
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| mikey |
Sep 15 2005, 09:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 425 Joined: 30-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 214 Region Association: None |
For those in the SF Bay area who are interested in electric conversions there's a workshop on Sunday, September 25 at 10:00 AM - 5:00PM.
Location: Hewlett Packard Bldg. #48 19483 Pruneridge Ave. Cupertino, CA, Oak Room Auditorium. Details are here: http://www.electroauto.com/ Apparently 914s and VW Golfs are pretty popular for this kind of conversion. |
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| BMartin914 |
Sep 15 2005, 11:32 PM
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The problem with the TDI (1.9 VW) from my experience, is that the torque is all in one big lump around 2.5K-3K. It comes on, then goes FAST. They're great for mileage and highway cruising, but not so much fun to drive. Kind of like slow...slow...slow...wam!...then the power is gone and you have to shift it FAST, to even keep moving. Kind of annoying for spirited driving.
Now maybe that new V-10 TDI in the Touareg (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) |
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| sgomes |
Sep 16 2005, 09:18 AM
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Electric Member Group: Members Posts: 815 Joined: 6-May 04 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 2,029 |
And for those that are really really interested there is a rally the day before at Palo Alto High School:
Electric Car Rally |
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