Removing a complete rear control arm, BEST way to remove the cv from the trans |
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Removing a complete rear control arm, BEST way to remove the cv from the trans |
Gint |
Oct 14 2005, 05:26 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I know I can get it off, done it way to many times. But why oh why is it such a bitch to get these damn things off? Does anyone have a really, really, really clean way to get them off easily? I have a nice complete used rear arm with drive shaft and everything ready for a swap.
Oh, and, do any of my local gang have a cv joint gasket handy? It's the one thing out of all the crap I forgot to order that I absolutely must have to get the car back on the road this weekend. |
olav |
Oct 14 2005, 05:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
I just removed mine last Friday. I undid the hex bolts and banged the CV's with a rubber mallot. Just popped off eventually. |
Gint |
Oct 14 2005, 05:33 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
None of mine have ever come off that easily. And this one is just ass stubborn. It's like they're glued to the gasket adn the gasket to the flanges. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif) |
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SLITS |
Oct 14 2005, 05:38 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Tap a flat blade screwdriver into the mating flange....the gasket will give way and you can pry a little bit. Rotate shaft 180 and do it again. Make sure you use a Craftsman screwdriver so when you break it you can get a replacement............ (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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ArtechnikA |
Oct 14 2005, 05:51 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
off? small impact wrench, sharp chisel to separate the CV.
this will eventually wear out the triple-square bit (so get good ones and replace them as required) and of course destroy the gasket. but you'll get 'em off quick & easy. *on* is hard. and watch for the gasket to compress after about a week requiring *another* round of re-torquing... |
BMartin914 |
Oct 14 2005, 06:09 PM
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Mike,
I *might* have a gasket. I have a bag full of new paper gaskets that I think are for CVs because of their size. I can check tomorrow morning when I am home. If I end up finding some I can bring them by when I get the charcoal canister. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
Gint |
Oct 14 2005, 06:58 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
It's off. Once I got all of the control arm mounting bolts off and everything removed, it only took a quick sharp pull of the entire assembly (like a slide hammer) and it popped right off.
Ben! I may need that gasket. Probably tomorrow. I guess I better dig that canister out of the shed in the morning eh? Call me after 8:00. I do need to call around for some other odds and ends anyway, so maybe I'll get lucky. Pics later. Gotta chow now. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chowtime.gif) |
Gint |
Oct 14 2005, 09:35 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Mmmm... Love sushi. And sake.
Anywho... Inside right rear control arm. Notice the *bushing*, or lack thereof. No wonder the damn thing had a "loose" condition. No bushing will do that. Attached image(s) |
Gint |
Oct 14 2005, 09:37 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
At least the hole isn't ovaled. Note the crunchy ear though. It'll have to do for 2-3 months until I can get it replaced.
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Gint |
Oct 14 2005, 09:37 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Old...
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Gint |
Oct 14 2005, 09:39 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
The new. The rotor, caliper, and cheasy studs will come off and be replaced with the excellent condtion original components tomorrow. Hopefully I'll come up with a cv gasket so I can enjoy this killer weather this weekend.
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Gint |
Oct 15 2005, 09:13 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Ben! I need that gasket. Nobody has one on the shelf in town this morning. Gimme a call. 720-480-2540 Cell
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Gint |
Oct 15 2005, 09:25 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Canister (nice late unit) is in my trunk. I'm off to the gun show. Call my cell (above). I can swing into Arvada if need be; no problem. |
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SLITS |
Oct 15 2005, 10:10 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Weld it.....the weld is stronger than the original metal........................ |
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davep |
Oct 15 2005, 10:11 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,151 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Wow, I've never seen a control arm bushing look like that. I'm trying to rack my brain as to how that could have happened. Especially with the hole in the ear not ovaled. It does look a little more rusted than usual though.
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SLITS |
Oct 15 2005, 10:19 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
had a couple....rubber gets old, turns brittle and under stress cracks, starts to fall apart. If your car is on a rack and you sideload the wheel, you can see it move. |
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Cap'n Krusty |
Oct 15 2005, 10:57 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Where's the panic? As I said recently (you should able to find it in the archives with a little research), this is the ONE place on the car where a judicious little bead of RTV will work nicely. And, BTW, the paper gasket fits in a depression, so it shouldn't be a cause for needing to retorque the bolts later on. The Cap'n |
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Gint |
Oct 15 2005, 02:10 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You haven't seen the other side of the ear. This thing is toast and needs to be replaced.
I can stop screwin around with 914's now I've seen it all! I won't do it. I'll wait until I get a gasket. |
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goose2 |
Oct 15 2005, 02:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 30-March 05 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 3,847 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
get some gasket paper at FLAPS and make one if you're really stuck...btdt, fussy but it works
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Gint |
Oct 15 2005, 02:36 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Me too. In fact I've got some in the cabiet. Not quite as think though. I'm just gonna wait. I've got plenty of other crap to do around here anyway. I can order the gaskets and everything else I need from the local import FLAPS and pick it all up at lunchtime Tuesday anyway. |
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