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r_towle
post Nov 8 2005, 06:30 PM
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ok....we are in the assembly mode on my sons restoration.

Does anyone have a pic of the wiring under the passenger seat...

Specifically I am looking for how it is mounted to the floor and the correct position.

the system is already jumpered, but I would like to mount it the way it is supposed to be, that way it wont rattle loose or get caught in something else.

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post Nov 8 2005, 11:17 PM
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post Nov 8 2005, 11:52 PM
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i could get a clue on this as well. i have two sets of wires coming from the seat area: one from the seat belt receiver, and one from the bottom seat cushion. which of these plugs to which wire?

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post Nov 9 2005, 12:07 AM
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I'm not 100% sure since my car has had other PO modifications done...

The buzzer in my '76 is mounted perpendicular to the firewall, with the socket facing the dash. It's physical location is centered under the passenger seat with the wiring running directly back and under the firewall "cushion".

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========dash=====
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post Nov 9 2005, 08:24 AM
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Ditto: I'm also looking to restore the original set up. A nice diagram with notes would be really helpfull
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post Nov 9 2005, 02:23 PM
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Sorry guys, all 3 of my previous restorations, I deleted all wiring and removed both units from under the seat...Used the Large Yellow wires to set up a hidden switch to keep the car from being stolen...

So I can't help other than to say I thought there was a picture in the Haynes Manual...I am pretty sure there is a picture in (can't remember the author...Bruce P****) the restoration book with the yellow and black 914's on the front... The picture is in Black & White but the wiring Diagram in the Haynes is correct because I used it to disconnect on my previous Restorations...

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post Nov 9 2005, 05:01 PM
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Just happen to have my '76 project car right here in the garage.
One of the few parts not yet removed.

It's very original, only about 32,000 miles.
Looks like they just connected the big yellow wire to bypass the buzzer.


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post Nov 9 2005, 05:02 PM
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A little more detail...


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post Nov 9 2005, 05:21 PM
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wierd. i have a FAT relay under there.. like 2 or 3x as wide
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post Nov 9 2005, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Nov 9 2005, 07:21 PM)
wierd. i have a FAT relay under there.. like 2 or 3x as wide

Haynes also shows a bigger box and calls it a Seat Belt Logic Switch.

The PO must have made some changes.
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post Nov 9 2005, 05:36 PM
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Yep, the fat relay lookin' do-dad is the seat belt interlock relay...If you weren't buckled up, the car would not start...

The one in the pic above is the buzzer for the seatbelt (and maybe door ajar) system...

75' & 76' had em' both under the passenger seat...

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post Nov 9 2005, 06:13 PM
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where all models fit with a relay that size? The PO on my '73 must have yanked it before I could (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)
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post Nov 9 2005, 09:33 PM
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Nice picture; maybe we can get a good pic of the 2x /3x size. Would like to see someone label the connections. My relay is totally intact, but there are a lot of loose ends.
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post Nov 10 2005, 12:06 AM
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here's how the relay/wires look in my '75. by all appearances, it has not been tampered with (car sat undriven for 20 yrs). still can't figure out which of the seat belt and seat cushion wires go to which plug receiver though.


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post Nov 10 2005, 12:08 AM
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here's another look, a bit closer.

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post Nov 10 2005, 09:26 AM
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Nice pic of the '75; I'm going to check mine tomorrow and compare.
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post Nov 10 2005, 06:53 PM
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by all appearances, it has not been tampered with


the Scotch lock connector bridgeing the starter wires looks like tampering to me (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post Nov 10 2005, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (ejm @ Nov 10 2005, 04:53 PM)
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by all appearances, it has not been tampered with


the Scotch lock connector bridgeing the starter wires looks like tampering to me (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

well i've only been at this for a couple years, i never would've guessed that that lock thingie wasn't original. it looks a lot better than some of the other bypass setups i've seen though. how can i undo it?

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post Nov 10 2005, 09:22 PM
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Mine was worse than I thought. First, the dash seat belt light works, so something is connected, I'm not sure what.

The only wires I can identify are: The green wire on the left side is part of the left seat belt switch and according to Hynes, the green wire with red stripe is the oil idiot light. I would like to re-do this mess so it looks original. Any tips would be appreciated.

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post Nov 10 2005, 09:42 PM
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Here you go guys, I hope this helps. This wiring diagram is for a 1974 model, I presume, but don't know if they are all the same...


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