Metal shapers, How do you roll the edge, of a 3" hole for an exposed gas cap? |
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Metal shapers, How do you roll the edge, of a 3" hole for an exposed gas cap? |
neo914-6 |
Dec 14 2005, 11:52 PM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
I looked at alot of cars at the dismantler but the round gas cap holes are usually 5" diameter to allow you to stick your hand in. The smaller ones like on the early Rabbit have a flange to mount the gas filler.
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Bleyseng |
Dec 14 2005, 11:55 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
thats stamped and it takes a large metal press to do it.
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Andyrew |
Dec 14 2005, 11:59 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Have you tried with a hammer and dolley to make the first crease, then on the other side to finish it off? (all the way around the hole..)
It would be a lot of work.. I bet there all stamped from the factory.... Maybe a 4in dia round pipe, and a 3.5in dia round pipe 4 inch on the bottom, 3.5 in on the top, Hammer down on the 3.5 in pipe... for the flat portion, move the 3.5in pipe to the other side and hammer down till flat? A solid 3.5in dia pipe would be best.. if you could find it (probably a lot of money.. lol Never thought of having to make that.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) Good luck! |
rick 918-S |
Dec 15 2005, 12:10 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,489 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Make an inside and out side die set out of 3/8" steel. Use a 3/4" or 1" bolt (big bolt) and an impact to pull the two parts together. Or just use a hammer and dolly....
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goose2 |
Dec 15 2005, 12:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 30-March 05 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 3,847 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
make a sheet metal ring the same dia as the hole, or cut it from something cylindrical the right size...weld and grind
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sixnotfour |
Dec 15 2005, 12:26 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,434 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I did both methods, this picture welded ring , the other I did hole saw and hammer and dolly but did a shorter lip about 1/2inch
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sixnotfour |
Dec 15 2005, 12:44 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,434 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
other
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Andyrew |
Dec 15 2005, 12:49 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
rear??
Whats that go to? Oil? |
sixnotfour |
Dec 15 2005, 12:52 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,434 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
peterson oil tank,different (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)
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TravisNeff |
Dec 15 2005, 01:15 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I am with Rick, a belling tool is ticket. If you have a lathe you can make one, or farm it out. There is a bodywork book that covers this pretty well but I can't remember the name of it at the moment.
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airsix |
Dec 15 2005, 01:18 AM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
Cool, but don't ever stop for fuel in Oregon. Some pump monkey will fill it with gasoline! -Ben M. |
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lotus_65 |
Dec 15 2005, 05:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,608 Joined: 21-March 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,795 Region Association: Northstar Region |
how is the gas cap kit from martin baker (mentioned in the spanish 914 gt) thread set up? does it require reshaping the hood?
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iamchappy |
Dec 15 2005, 08:55 AM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
You can always go to a junk yard and have them cut the thing out of a car, then weld it up.
Or do this like i did to mine. Attached thumbnail(s) |
Brett W |
Dec 15 2005, 09:07 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
make a wooden female form. then take a hammer and hammer for the rough shape and then very carefully smooth it out with a hammer and dolly.
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John Kelly |
Dec 15 2005, 01:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Moclips WA. Member No.: 640 |
Hi Felix,
If the recess is not too deep, you could clamp a pipe underneath, and use a hammer with a corking or caulking tool...just a piece of wood or aluminum shaped like a dull cold chisel. You would gradually tap on the corking tool held against the sheetmetal, and the pipe below would define the circle. Then form the flange with some pliers or a crescent wrench...finish off with hammer and dolly. If the hole is deep..say over 3/8" you may have a problem with the area around the hole losing some of its shape, because you may need to stretch the flange a little.... John www.ghiaspecialties.com |
r_towle |
Dec 15 2005, 07:52 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,588 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Take a look at this one.
I think with some reall good measuring, you could make this work...not the way it works on a motorcycle tank, but the idea... Im thinking that the cap should be accessible from the outside, but look flush...try to blend it in. Hotch Gas cap Rich |
neo914-6 |
Dec 15 2005, 10:42 PM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
This fits my theme better (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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jonwatts |
Dec 15 2005, 11:35 PM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 |
Oooh, very neo
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goose2 |
Dec 15 2005, 11:51 PM
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ooooh, nice...what's that from? |
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jonwatts |
Dec 15 2005, 11:59 PM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 |
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