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Screw on Flares |
joea9146 |
Oct 23 2003, 01:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 663 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Denver, NC Member No.: 283 Region Association: None |
I have seen some pictures of 914's with Screw on Flares.
Is that a special flare that is designed to screw on... What is the material is it FG? What is the fit like ? Anyone have close up pictures of what this looks like and what is the process to install ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif) |
SirAndy |
Oct 23 2003, 01:26 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,805 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(joea9146 @ Oct 23 2003, 12:22 PM) I have seen some pictures of 914's with Screw on Flares. Is that a special flare that is designed to screw on... What is the material is it FG? What is the fit like ? Anyone have close up pictures of what this looks like and what is the process to install ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif) just generic FG-GT flares. someone was either too lazy to glass them in or they like the looks of it ... when you glass in flares, you actually screw (or rivet) them on first (with glue between the flare and the body), then, when the glue has dried, you remove the screws or drill out the rivets and then glass over on the outside, smooth and finish ... Andy |
Air_Cooled_Nut |
Oct 23 2003, 01:30 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
Joe, I love your avitar. Please don't ever change it.
JUBBLIES! |
Scott Carlberg |
Oct 23 2003, 01:44 PM
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Porsche MOTORSPORTS Group: Members Posts: 1,595 Joined: 17-April 03 From: Modesto, Ca Member No.: 580 |
QUOTE(Air_Cooled_Nut @ Oct 23 2003, 12:30 PM) Joe, I love your avitar. Please don't ever change it. JUBBLIES! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) for the 3rd time! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
machina |
Oct 23 2003, 01:47 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
its not just laziness. On alot of racecars, makes it easier to repair. And we repair bodywork alot.
dr |
SirAndy |
Oct 23 2003, 02:01 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,805 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Oct 23 2003, 12:47 PM) its not just laziness. On alot of racecars, makes it easier to repair. And we repair bodywork alot. ok, ok, it's only the lazy racers then ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
BravoHotel |
Oct 23 2003, 02:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 153 Joined: 5-March 03 From: Columbus, MS Member No.: 399 |
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john rogers |
Oct 24 2003, 11:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,525 Joined: 4-March 03 From: Chula Vista CA Member No.: 391 |
I pop riveted mine on the race car so I can get them off to replace one easily if it needs replacing. Much easier than having to cut it off, redo the bondo, etc, of cource if I had the facilities like Brumos does I would glass them on. I used ones from Jim Patrick like in the picture posted above and they fit great.
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Scott S |
Oct 24 2003, 11:36 AM
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Small Member Group: Members Posts: 1,698 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 633 |
Lazy?
I seem to recall it taking me quite a while to get all of the flanges shaped the same and to get the flare to lay flat on the car without adhesives and rivets. I was actually pretty surprised at how poor the fit was out of the box. I am sure they are all this way as I ordered two flairs from Performance, one from Pelican and one from GT racing because of inventory issues. As well, my car came out the way I wanted it - nothing lazy about that... Attached image(s) |
joea9146 |
Oct 24 2003, 11:47 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 663 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Denver, NC Member No.: 283 Region Association: None |
Scott.... or anyone else have any close up shots of the fenders.
Also any in progress shots and how the fenders are finsihed under the flare. |
Brad Roberts |
Oct 24 2003, 11:51 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Hum.. Mr. Patrick's main hoop is not LEGAL. His helmet is even with the top of it. Nice car however.
I think Andy's choice of words (lazy) was a little harsh. But Andy's english is mostly learned from this site...LOL B |
Dave_Darling |
Oct 24 2003, 11:57 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,047 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Screw on flares? The main problem with that is that they keep cracking... I mean, they're not designed to support the weight of two people!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif)
--DD |
Randal |
Oct 24 2003, 12:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
I used the Patrick Racing flares, bumpers and valances on my 914. If you are seriously considering going down this path I have some hard learned advice that will make the process much less frustrating.
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seanery |
Oct 24 2003, 12:05 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Share it Brother!
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joea9146 |
Oct 24 2003, 12:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 663 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Denver, NC Member No.: 283 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Randal @ Oct 24 2003, 02:01 PM) I used the Patrick Racing flares, bumpers and valances on my 914. If you are seriously considering going down this path I have some hard learned advice that will make the process much less frustrating. Randal: Definetly interested in what you have to offer from past experinece.... I love the look of your car do you have any other pictures |
J P Stein |
Oct 24 2003, 12:14 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Joe:
Are finally gonna put some tire under that thing? I like that look also....but they'd look better in primer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
john rogers |
Oct 24 2003, 01:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,525 Joined: 4-March 03 From: Chula Vista CA Member No.: 391 |
Jim caught a lot of heat about his helmet sticking above the roll cage and has corrected that. He couldn't get the seat any lower and he had to replace/modify the cage loops. And then he sold the car to a shorter driver and it didn't matter!!
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tdgray |
Oct 24 2003, 01:08 PM
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Thank God Nemo is not here to see this Group: Members Posts: 9,705 Joined: 5-August 03 From: Akron, OH Member No.: 984 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Screw on flares? The main problem with that is that they keep cracking... I mean, they're not designed to support the weight of two people!!! LMFAO I had to read that twice to get it .... man am I ready for 5 pm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Brad Roberts |
Oct 24 2003, 01:09 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
JohnR,
What are you working on right now ?? Are you kicking everyones ass in HSR West ?? B |
Randal |
Oct 24 2003, 01:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
OK, but I have strong opinions on this subject, which won’t be seen as PC.
Being a novice fabricator I didn’t even attempt to install the Patrick Racing flares/front bumper/valances. But knowing what I learned from the process, i.e., (first) going to the wrong people, the easiest, least stressful and most financially prudent approach - to get it done right the first time out of the box - is to have Tony at TC Design put them on. Alternatively tow your vehicle down to Phoenix and have Jim Patrick install them. Either of these two approaches will make you a lot happier and again, from my view, there is nothing like a road trip as compared to a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. However, if you’re a competent body fabricator and are going to do the work yourself, here are some issues: First the basics: Recognize that putting the entire package on the car is more art than science. Even Tony at TC Design, who absolutely knows what he is doing, noodled on the front bumper and valances (a lot) before beginning the exercise. Also he didn’t install them separately as per conventional wisdom. He did a lot of cutting and shaping and made the front one piece by pop riveting the bumper and valance together. It did come out nice as all his work. The second thing to note is that putting the flares on the car has a difficulty of say 1. Matching the flares to the bottom valance changes this difficulty to 3. Matching the bottom valance to the front and rear bumper/valances changes the difficulty to 6. If you move anything it affects the fit of another piece. Not easy stuff. The flares can fit nice, but you need to get the “new” trimming instructions from Jim Patrick. They helped. BTW Jim communicates well and provides as much information as he can, but there are no written instruction. Also to do the job you’ll need to get a set of cleco fasteners and pliers. These fasteners hold the flare/bumper/valance on temporarily when you making adjustments. I also believe the only way to ensure that everything fits correctly is to mock up the entire project (cleco fasteners) to see that everything is perfect. The added wrinkle is that d-zus fastners will end up holding the front bumper and valances; getting these integrated into the mock up is challenging. |
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