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> watercooled radiator photos, Subaru, Maxda, V6, V8 etc, Please post radiator setups, need some design ideas
dmenche914
post Oct 13 2006, 04:00 AM
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Would folks with water cooled 914's please post some photos of your radiator set up, and details of what metal was cut for inlet, outlet holes, fan details, etc... also list type / size of motor you are cooling.

Looking for proven idea on a cooling system for a Buick V6 engine 3.8 liter.

Like to see what has been done for any water cooled engine, V6, V8, Subaru, mazda etc...

Thinking maybe a front bumper area inlet, adn with right ducting an outlet/fan on trunk floor. I kind of like Philip hauns set up (Blue Thunder car) but waant to check out other options. The "holy grail would be to locate the enitre cooling system in the engine bay, but I thinkt here is too many space, heat issues.

What have you all done?

thanks in advance
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post Oct 13 2006, 07:35 AM
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This setup is yet to be proven, but this is how I am doing my Buick 3.8.
http://www.phoenixhobbies.com/html/cooling.html

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post Oct 13 2006, 07:43 AM
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how much did will this cost in parts?

renegade's system is about $1150 shipped.
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post Oct 13 2006, 07:50 AM
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Jim,
I figure I have spent a little over $800.00 so far. Maybe a little bit more to finish it off.


(keep in mind that setup was sized for 3.8 V6 with about 250 - 275 HP, a V8 would require a larger radiator)
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post Oct 13 2006, 08:00 AM
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I use an electric water pump with griffin radiator. 305 ci V8
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nicksws6/det...jpg&.src=ph

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nicksws6/det...jpg&.src=ph
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post Oct 13 2006, 09:08 AM
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Great thread, keep the pics coming.

Nickm1 : In your photos I saw a front quarter shot, and the air intake wasn't visible; does the air come in from below the bumper ?

Nickm1 & PhoenixNM : both of your setups blow air into the front trunk; where does it exit ? Fender cutout ?
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post Oct 13 2006, 09:19 AM
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jsteele22,

Fender/wheel well cutout for me.

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post Oct 13 2006, 09:45 AM
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anyone with experience with a front bumper area intake, and a trunk floor outlet? (rather than inner fender well outlets) that would be my prefered system I think, as long as it cools ok. I am doing a 3.8 V6.
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post Oct 13 2006, 11:05 AM
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The intake is just below the front bumper. And there are 2 giant holes cut into the wheel wells. You can sort of see them in the pictures. I'll try to take some better pictures for you. The front intake doesn't seem to be working well for me though. At high speeds 80+ there isn't any airflow and I overheat. Better shrouding around the fan might fix that problem also.
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post Oct 13 2006, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(dmenche914 @ Oct 13 2006, 09:45 AM) *

anyone with experience with a front bumper area intake, and a trunk floor outlet? (rather than inner fender well outlets) that would be my prefered system I think, as long as it cools ok. I am doing a 3.8 V6.



Well, that would be great for me, 'cause I've got a huge gaping hole there already - my car had the dealer A/C. Unfortunately, the area under the car is somewhat high in pressure. If you imagine flow lines of air travelling around/over/under the car, then the ones that pass under the car converge, meaning the air is getting squished. On the side of the car, OTOH, the lines spread out as they pass over the front of the wheel well opening (some of the air that was going straight turns into the wheel well area), so this is a low pressure area.


Hmmm, now that I think of it, has anybody put a radiator flat on the floor of the trunk, and vented it upwards and out the wheel wells ? Then you could seal off that area between the headlights and have a mini-trunk (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 13 2006, 11:27 AM
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Nick -
As you mentioned, better shrouding around your fan would probably solve your
problem, as well as going to a 2 fan set up with the better shrouding -

Can you guys who are using the Griffin radiators tell me which model # and where are you getting them ???
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post Oct 13 2006, 11:43 AM
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Bought it from Summit Racing, I think the part number was 2-28185-X

Went back and looked at the order form and the part number is 2-58190-X

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.a...mp;autoview=sku

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post Oct 13 2006, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(Phoenix-MN @ Oct 13 2006, 12:43 PM) *

Bought it from Summit Racing, I think the part number was 2-28185-X

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.a...mp;autoview=sku

Paul



Thanks Paul -
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post Oct 13 2006, 02:11 PM
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Kind of an impulse buy, but I just bought 2 radiators off EBay.. Aftermarket replacment radiators for Honda Del Sol (mid engine, anyways...). The core size is just under 14" x 14" x 5/8". And it includes a transmission oil cooler. The application was for a 1.6 L engine, so I figure 2 should work if I can find some airflow.. Plastic tanks, but what's a CSOB supposed to do ? Both radiators, including S&H for $75. Sorry, no more at that price (unless I can't get mine to fit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

Don't have a definite plan for where to put them yet, but I'm gonna start out seaching for room in the engine bay.
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post Oct 13 2006, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(jsteele22 @ Oct 13 2006, 01:11 PM) *

Kind of an impulse buy, but I just bought 2 radiators off EBay.. Aftermarket replacment radiators for Honda Del Sol (mid engine, anyways...). The core size is just under 14" x 14" x 5/8". And it includes a transmission oil cooler. The application was for a 1.6 L engine, so I figure 2 should work if I can find some airflow.. Plastic tanks, but what's a CSOB supposed to do ? Both radiators, including S&H for $75. Sorry, no more at that price (unless I can't get mine to fit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

Don't have a definite plan for where to put them yet, but I'm gonna start out seaching for room in the engine bay.


Del SLows are fron engine....
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post Oct 13 2006, 03:28 PM
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Unless you came upon this Del Slow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Oct 13 2006, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Oct 13 2006, 02:16 PM) *

Del SLows are fron engine....


Doh ! I knew there was a reason I got a 914 instead....
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post Oct 13 2006, 09:29 PM
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post Oct 13 2006, 10:04 PM
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post Oct 13 2006, 10:06 PM
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