HELP - Car won't go into 4th and 5th gears |
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HELP - Car won't go into 4th and 5th gears |
mikeyboy_85 |
Mar 1 2008, 02:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 24-May 07 From: australia Member No.: 7,758 |
I have just had the transmission and all the bushes replaced about 5000 miles ago and driving along today and it has decided that 4th and 5th arn't there, when i go to shift into 4th i keep selecting 2nd, Does anyone know what could of gone wrong? The gears feel a bit sloppy too . . .
thanks michael |
Dr. Roger |
Mar 1 2008, 02:31 AM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
Check bolt #1 on this Pelican Parts diagram.
AKA "M8". It may have slipped out of adjustment. That'd be my first guess. Let us know how it goes.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Roger http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/Parts/Peda...ge_side_big.htm (IMG:http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/Parts/Pedals/shift_linkage_side_big.jpg) |
ejm |
Mar 1 2008, 05:49 AM
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel Group: Members Posts: 2,693 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 224 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Also check the cone screws #23 + 26
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KaptKaos |
Mar 1 2008, 10:02 AM
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Family Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Are we sure its a side shift?
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pete914 |
Mar 1 2008, 11:09 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 21-August 07 From: east coast Member No.: 8,025 |
cone set screw in the back may be loose
or, as stated above your front shift linkage pinch bolt loosened... |
geniusanthony |
Mar 1 2008, 01:02 PM
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Its a brand new "Chrome-sicle" Group: Members Posts: 517 Joined: 12-December 05 From: Alexandria,VA Member No.: 5,266 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
if it is a loose bolt somewhere. which it probably is. tightening it alone won't help the problem if you dont re-adjust the lengths of the shift rods put. I wanna say there is a good article in the PelicanParts.com 914 tech section to adjust the lengths properly
good luck and I have been there. I had to stop on the way home to buy a 2nd 13 mm wrench just so i could shift out of 1 3 5 |
So.Cal.914 |
Mar 1 2008, 01:06 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
Are we sure its a side shift? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) A worn tail bushing, linkage out of adjustment. What year is it? |
Pakis |
Mar 1 2008, 02:37 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 25-March 06 From: Humble, TX Member No.: 5,768 |
Make sure bolt #7 on that same diagram is tight and most importantly installed in the correct position. When installed in the wrong direction the threaded end comes in contact with other parts in the center channel. You can see the scars it this is happening. I believe that with a stock shifter that it will still work but if you have a short shift kit you can't get enough leverage to move it into gear. Of course I have never placed that bolt in the wrong way, more than once that is.
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Dave_Darling |
Mar 1 2008, 06:49 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Another possibility is that the clutch tube inside the center tunnel has broken loose, and the linkage is hitting it when you try to shift into that 4/5 gate.
--DD |
mikeyboy_85 |
Mar 1 2008, 07:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 24-May 07 From: australia Member No.: 7,758 |
hey, thanks for all the replies, its a 72mdl but has been converted to side shift. Should i take it to the mechanics or should i just do it myself, im no mechanic so bit worried?
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degreeoff |
Mar 1 2008, 08:12 PM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Dude...if it is one of the above listed things then do it yourself....check the bolt down in the tunnel behind the shifter lever and the set screws it is not that tough and you should be able to get it with a lil help from the Haynes manual. You own a teener so learn how to fix it! it is monkey simple man.......
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mikeyboy_85 |
Mar 1 2008, 09:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 24-May 07 From: australia Member No.: 7,758 |
ok i tried the adjustment at the bottom of the gear lever and that only seems to lenthen or shorten the shift rod, but i think i need side to side adjustment, where do i find the cone screws?
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Cevan |
Mar 1 2008, 09:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 11-December 06 From: Western Massachusetts Member No.: 7,351 |
There is a rubber boot (#29) over the shift rod where it exists the firewall under the car. Pull the boot away from the firewall and you'll see where the rear shift rod (#27) mates with the front shift rod (#30). Tighten the cone screw with a 4 mm allen wrench.
The other cone screw is accessed by removing the black plastic cover (#22). There is a band clamp that holds it in place. Also a 4mm allen wrench. These screws can be replaced if they are worn. Pelican has them here. |
mikeyboy_85 |
Mar 1 2008, 10:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 24-May 07 From: australia Member No.: 7,758 |
but its not just a matter of tightening is it ?? won't i need to make some form of adjustment ?
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Dave_Darling |
Mar 2 2008, 12:02 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The cone screws give you no adjustment; they simply give you extra slop if they're not tight.
The side-to-side adjustment is done where the fore-and-aft is; loosen that bolt and rotate the shift rod that is inside the tunnel relative to the clamp. (Or vise-versa.) --DD |
mikeyboy_85 |
Mar 2 2008, 12:38 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 24-May 07 From: australia Member No.: 7,758 |
jsut got undercar and the cone screw was so loose i could tighten it with fingers, but now that i have adjusted up front i think that i have put it all out of wack, cause now i don't have to push hard over the the left to get 1st and reverse and i still have no 4th and 5th!!
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racunniff |
Mar 2 2008, 12:42 AM
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volt914 Group: Members Posts: 172 Joined: 21-August 06 From: Fort Collins, CO Member No.: 6,705 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
jsut got undercar and the cone screw was so loose i could tighten it with fingers, but now that i have adjusted up front i think that i have put it all out of wack, cause now i don't have to push hard over the the left to get 1st and reverse and i still have no 4th and 5th!! The bolt behind the stick shift *does* give you left-right adjustment. See here. |
mikeyboy_85 |
Mar 2 2008, 02:37 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 24-May 07 From: australia Member No.: 7,758 |
just as i was about to give up, I got it! perfect better than it was before
thanks for all the help, saved me some $$ |
rhodyguy |
Mar 2 2008, 08:02 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,090 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
now that you have the linkage adjusted, source new cone screws. they will prob back out again and you will be lying under the car on the side of the road retightening them again.
k |
degreeoff |
Mar 2 2008, 08:48 AM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) way to go man...easy as pie and you now know a little more about your car!
Josh |
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