914 SHO - who dunit?, I'm going to do it - 3.2L V6 SHO |
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914 SHO - who dunit?, I'm going to do it - 3.2L V6 SHO |
3d914 |
May 6 2008, 11:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,275 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Benson, AZ Member No.: 1,191 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I thought I read a posting that listed all the different types of 914 conversions done over the years. I saved it but can't find it for some reason.
Anyhow - I remember there being a 914 SHO V6 in the list. Does anyone know who has done one of these - not just thought about it, but actually built one? I'll go it alone if necessary, but I'd be curious to discuss some approaches with someone who's been there. TIA, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
Eric_Shea |
May 7 2008, 12:22 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Oooooooooooo... this is going to be one of my favorites!
Watching with bait breath (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I was the President of the SHO Club in Chicago. We hosted the national convention back in 94 I think... anywhoo; this is one of my favorite engines of all time. At one of the first get togethers in 91 or 2 there was a mid-engined 904 looking thing (but not) that had a SHO motor mated to a 901 so... it's doable Whether it will fit in a teener or not, I don't know. It's been talked about here in the past but I've never seen one. DO IT!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) |
Eric_Shea |
May 7 2008, 12:31 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Maybe Felix's thread is what you were looking for?
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...;hl=SHO++Yamaha |
LvSteveH |
May 7 2008, 12:32 AM
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I put the Poor in Porsche Group: Members Posts: 1,080 Joined: 22-April 03 From: Las Vegas, Nevada Member No.: 600 |
The SHO motor is really really tall. I don't have dimensions, but it's not going to be an easy fit. I don't know if anyone has dry sumped a SHO motor, but that would probably shave quite a bit off the height if you went with an ultra low profile pan.
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SirAndy |
May 7 2008, 12:40 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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LvSteveH |
May 7 2008, 12:45 AM
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I put the Poor in Porsche Group: Members Posts: 1,080 Joined: 22-April 03 From: Las Vegas, Nevada Member No.: 600 |
The Ford SHO was a taurus with a high performance motor built by Yamaha. One of the most beautiful intakes ever on a production car. It is reported to be capable of reving to 10,000 rpms without breaking a sweat. Keeping the belts on would probably be a problem if you had the guts to try (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Here's a couple pics to show the height. I doubt a dry sump pan would be enough. It looks like the crankshaft centerline to the top of the intake is too far to fit in a 914 engine bay. Attached image(s) |
Wanna9146 |
May 7 2008, 12:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 235 Joined: 19-January 08 From: Florida Member No.: 8,595 Region Association: South East States |
Ford SHO...Taurus. Engine was developed (manufactured?) by Mercury Marine and resembles an outboard motor (on its side). When accelerating, it sounds like a boat going down the street! |
dw914er |
May 7 2008, 12:47 AM
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Planning Cities Group: Members Posts: 2,364 Joined: 1-March 08 From: Yucaipa, CA Member No.: 8,763 Region Association: Southern California |
i believe it was a ford high performance v6 it was in the sho taurus back in the early 90's i think that is correct (if it is, just a warning, im anti ford biased lol) |
LvSteveH |
May 7 2008, 01:00 AM
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I put the Poor in Porsche Group: Members Posts: 1,080 Joined: 22-April 03 From: Las Vegas, Nevada Member No.: 600 |
Ford SHO...Taurus. Engine was developed (manufactured?) by Mercury Marine and resembles an outboard motor (on its side). When accelerating, it sounds like a boat going down the street! The SHO motors were built by Yamaha, where as the 405hp corvette ZR1 LT5 was manufactured by Mercury; also a super cool motor. The LT5 is supposed to be one of the most complex automotive engines ever built. Here's a pic of a SHO motor in an MGB, so anything is possible. Attached image(s) |
Wanna9146 |
May 7 2008, 01:03 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 235 Joined: 19-January 08 From: Florida Member No.: 8,595 Region Association: South East States |
The SHO motors were built by Yamaha, where as the 405hp corvette ZR1 LT5 was manufactured by Mercury... Ahh, yes. You are correct, sir. Having owned both in the (way distant) past, my memory is a little fuzzy. I stand corrected. (But, the SHO sounded like an outboard, while the ZR1 did not!). |
messix |
May 7 2008, 01:07 AM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
it can't be any taller than a sbc.
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rktmn247 |
May 7 2008, 03:16 AM
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Irish Green with GT envy! Group: Members Posts: 347 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Mililani, HI Member No.: 4,612 Region Association: None |
SHO = Super High Output. Built for Ford by Yamaha in 3.0 and 3.2, both rated at 220 hp. Nice! Get to work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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LvSteveH |
May 7 2008, 03:54 AM
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I put the Poor in Porsche Group: Members Posts: 1,080 Joined: 22-April 03 From: Las Vegas, Nevada Member No.: 600 |
it can't be any taller than a sbc. In a 914 a chevy 350 measures 20" from the crankshaft centerline to the deck lid. That's just enough room to clear a low profile intake manifold, holley carb and a k&n low profile air cleaner. It will be interesting to see what the SHO motor measures. |
TROJANMAN |
May 7 2008, 07:46 AM
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Looks nice in pictures......... Group: Members Posts: 5,271 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None |
What a beautiful piece of engineering............ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.greene-shipman.org/MTY_SHO_2.jpg) |
rick 918-S |
May 7 2008, 07:57 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,471 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
IMHO, 220 hp isn't enough of a gain to bother with. Your adding hp but the negitive effect is the high roll center change. I'd do a Subi before a Sho. cool intake though.
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Dave_Darling |
May 7 2008, 09:54 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Weren't there also SHO V8s, also made by Yamaha?
Ah, yes--here's a reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Yamaha_V8_engine --DD |
Crazyhippy |
May 7 2008, 10:08 AM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
Been tried, It is WAY tall (holes in the decklid, big chunk out of the trunk)
They are also electrical NIGHTMARES, the subbie is bad, but the SHO is worse. Fuel tank temp sensor anyone? BJH |
jd74914 |
May 7 2008, 10:12 AM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
it can't be any taller than a sbc. In a 914 a chevy 350 measures 20" from the crankshaft centerline to the deck lid. That's just enough room to clear a low profile intake manifold, holley carb and a k&n low profile air cleaner. It will be interesting to see what the SHO motor measures. Me too. I have always thought these would be a perfect 914 motor. As said above, once the belt driven things are off they are supposed to be able to clear 9k RPM (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) . The only thing IMHO that would make them a better transplant candidate is if the iron block was aluminum. As far as power goes, they are supposed to gain a huge amount (20+) of horsepower when the restrictive exhaust is removed and replaced with something else. The other heat thing is that I have heard that the intake manifold is symmetrical so it can be rotated 180 degrees to ease fitment issues. |
plymouth37 |
May 7 2008, 10:38 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Damn, that MGC install is KLEEEEN! The SHO engine is a great motor, they really scream.
That said, I would still go with a subie rather than the SHO but as you all know I am a little biased! |
Eric_Shea |
May 7 2008, 11:38 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE When accelerating, it sounds like a boat going down the street! Maybe from "behind" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif) The cool thing about the SHO is how seamless the power transition is between the long and short intakes. Way smooth. Yamaha wanted to purchase my engine as I put 50k on it every year. In my 3rd year of ownership I had 150k on the engine. This is when I met the head designer at Yamaha and he wanted to purchase the motor. The deal eventually fell through but he sent me one of those Shin Yaka??? detailed cutaway drawings as thanks. |
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