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tightening exhaust bolts, what to use to get to them? |
mattp |
Jul 28 2008, 01:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 22-November 06 From: westchester NY Member No.: 7,252 |
I need to tighten my exhaust boltsat the head, what can I use to get to them? Sockets are too thick??
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Cevan |
Jul 28 2008, 01:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 11-December 06 From: Western Massachusetts Member No.: 7,351 |
I've been able to use a 3/8" drive 13mm Craftsman socket on all 8 of them, with an extension.
Edit - make that a 12mm socket. I do have the correct copper exhaust stud nuts. |
URY914 |
Jul 28 2008, 01:50 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,038 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
You must have a set of quality sockets, Craftman, Mac, Snap-on etc. They are stronger by haveing a larger outside diameter than the cheap ones.
I use a 1/4" drive 13 mm deep socket for mine. |
mattp |
Jul 28 2008, 01:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 22-November 06 From: westchester NY Member No.: 7,252 |
have tried a 3/8 craftsmen deep socket?
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rjames |
Jul 28 2008, 02:07 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,955 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Look for a cheap socket rather than something nicer like a craftsman or snap-on. The cheaper ones will most likely be thinner walled and allow you to get in there. Bring your socket to the store with you when you look for one to compare.
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blitZ |
Jul 28 2008, 02:07 PM
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Beer please... Group: Members Posts: 2,223 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Lawrenceville, GA Member No.: 4,719 Region Association: South East States |
1/4 inch drive and extension will give you more wiggle room to get around the exhaust pipes.
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McMark |
Jul 28 2008, 02:09 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
The factory nut is a M8x1.25 nut that fits a 12MM socket. Standard, hardware store nuts use a 13mm wrench and can be a PITA to work with. Bug shops should have the correct, copper plated nuts.
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MartyYeoman |
Jul 28 2008, 02:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,520 Joined: 19-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 839 Region Association: Northern California |
I use a 12mm one of these in a 1/4" drive with a tee handle and 6" extension.
The socket OD is the same size as the nut flange. Attached image(s) |
mattp |
Jul 28 2008, 02:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 22-November 06 From: westchester NY Member No.: 7,252 |
what brand is it? Is it deep enough?
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6freak |
Jul 28 2008, 02:28 PM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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MartyYeoman |
Jul 28 2008, 02:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,520 Joined: 19-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 839 Region Association: Northern California |
The one in the picture is a Snap-on. (reference picture only) The one I use is from Orchard Supply. I think it's a Craftsman. |
Chris Pincetich |
Jul 28 2008, 02:42 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
Wobble extension = worth its weight in gold.
I got mine from the Snap-On van First click and your socket can pivot 10-30deg all around at the attachment point (tighter than the one above) Second click and the socket is on the extension SOLID This works for all sockets (mine is 3/8) and is handy for almost all weird angle, tough to reach nuts, including those exhaust stud nuts. I use mine all the time!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Attached image(s) |
SGB |
Jul 28 2008, 02:53 PM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
Questions about depth relate to original configuration. My heads have several studs that are longer and require either a deep well socket (if I have the room) or a 12mm socket with the extension NOT clicked in, so there is room for the stud to protrude. Also, previous exhaust stud repairs often leave studs skewed. You can actually pry on the stud to get clearance for the socket, but I'm sure it weakens the stud's attachment to the head- but I have done that before (pry with screwdriver between exh pipe and stud in my case) and the stud stayed in.
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rjames |
Jul 28 2008, 04:11 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,955 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE You can actually pry on the stud to get clearance for the socket, but I'm sure it weakens the stud's attachment to the head- but I have done that before (pry with screwdriver between exh pipe and stud in my case) and the stud stayed in. I can't recommend against doing that enough. Breaking off an exhaust stud is not going to make you very happy person. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) Just get a socket that will fit, it's not that hard. And be careful of over tightening them. Get a torque wrench and tighten to spec. (I think spec is 18 foot pounds, but some like myself go less than that.) |
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