trans Mount: This does not look right., 914-6 conversion not right Options

[bfrymire]

Hello All,

I have a 914-6 conversion that I bought from someone. Well, looking at the rear trans mount, it's off the posts. This does not look right. Any ideas of whta is wrong and what I need to do to correct. (this does not look safe.) The engine appears to be mounted in the correct place and everything else looks ok. I am thinking that the rear mount is the wrong one???

Here's a pic.

I really hope someone can point me in the right direction.

-- brett

[sww914]

I'd be looking at the front some more to see what has allowed the engine and transmission to move that far back.
It's not right and it's not safe to drive until you fix it.

[sww914]

Also that big cup washer doesn't belong there.

[davep]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)
The engine has to be in the wrong place.

[bfrymire]

I'd be looking at the front some more to see what has allowed the engine and transmission to move that far back.
It's not right and it's not safe to drive until you fix it.

The car is up on jack stands at the moment. I will check the front mounting and post some more pictures.

What is really scary, is that I have been autocrossing the car and it's been doing well. I even had the car in the shop for work, and not one word was said about the trans location.

Well, it's going to get fixed now.

Thanks for the help, and I will have some more pictures in a couple of hours. (can't get to it right now.)

-- brett

[Dr Evil]

The cup goes on top with the dish facing down. The big flat washer goes on the bottom. What you have is a dangerous time bomb.

[bfrymire]

The cup goes on top with the dish facing down. The big flat washer goes on the bottom. What you have is a dangerous time bomb.

Figured that was the case, which is why I am asking everyone. It will be remedied now, and will not be driven until it is.

thanks again for the help.

-- brett

[sww914]

That's what this place is for!
Steve

[bfrymire]

That's what this place is for!
Steve

Thanks Steve,

Just went and tried to take some pictures of the mounting of the engine, and the pictures were useless. I will try again tomorrow with some more light.

Appreciate all the help!

-- brett

[r_towle]

This can be tricky but it can be done with ease if your careful.
If you remove the shifter bar it will make it easier. That will bind.

On jack stands.
Put a block of wood on a floor jack and put it under the motor, but only about a third of the way from the tranny....trying to center the weight of the whole package. make sure the wheels on the jack face forward...

Jack up the jack to relieve the wieght of the motor, but dont take on the weight of the car...let that stay on the jack stands.

Remove the front splash tray underneath the steering and gas tank.
Wrap a good strap around the cross member and attach a come along to that. One the other end, you want to grab the tranny at the rear...its tough to describe but put a strap around the rear of the tranny up and over the muffler bracket so all the force will be on the tranny itself.

Now attach a come along between these two strap and gently cinch it tight...you really dont need a whole lot of pulling power, you are sliding the motor and tranny forward....it really is gentle and wont bend anything it you put the straps in the right place and dont pinch anything..
Use blocks of wood between all the straps and the bottom of the car/tranny/motor etc.

A few clicks and it will pull forward again..then tighten it all back up.
Try to get the motor/tranny square to the lower firewall..it makes shifting alot better if the whole package is square and it can easily be put in not square.

rich

[736conver]

This can be tricky but it can be done with ease if your careful.
If you remove the shifter bar it will make it easier. That will bind.

On jack stands.
Put a block of wood on a floor jack and put it under the motor, but only about a third of the way from the tranny....trying to center the weight of the whole package. make sure the wheels on the jack face forward...

Jack up the jack to relieve the wieght of the motor, but dont take on the weight of the car...let that stay on the jack stands.

Remove the front splash tray underneath the steering and gas tank.
Wrap a good strap around the cross member and attach a come along to that. One the other end, you want to grab the tranny at the rear...its tough to describe but put a strap around the rear of the tranny up and over the muffler bracket so all the force will be on the tranny itself.

Now attach a come along between these two strap and gently cinch it tight...you really dont need a whole lot of pulling power, you are sliding the motor and tranny forward....it really is gentle and wont bend anything it you put the straps in the right place and dont pinch anything..
Use blocks of wood between all the straps and the bottom of the car/tranny/motor etc.

A few clicks and it will pull forward again..then tighten it all back up.
Try to get the motor/tranny square to the lower firewall..it makes shifting alot better if the whole package is square and it can easily be put in not square.

rich

Ahh dont do the above until you find out the problem, not finding the cause first is a recipe for disaster.

I think its your front mount for your converted six that is causing the problem.

[Root_Werks]

Rich mentioned something important. If someone just straightened the shift bar it'll be too long. Someone might have shifted the engine back to make the shifting work? Hard to say. You can measure the shift bar for us and we'll tell you if it's too long or not.

[bfrymire]

Rich mentioned something important. If someone just straightened the shift bar it'll be too long. Someone might have shifted the engine back to make the shifting work? Hard to say. You can measure the shift bar for us and we'll tell you if it's too long or not.

Finally got back to working it.

Ok. I looked at the rear mounts, and they were not symetrical. So, I rotated them, and it's a little better. Hum. So, I crawled to the front of the engine, and the motor is all the way forward on the cradle, and the cradle can only go one way, and it's mount directly on the cradle mounts on the frame. Still nothing that looks amiss. I did check the shift rod, and it's been cut and respliced together.

So, I am wondering if this is a homemade engine cradle, and was built wrong. Anyone point me to somewhere that there is a picture of a correct one?

I am still puzzled as I can't see anywhere that the engine can move forward anymore.

Thoughts anyone?

-- brett

[SirAndy]

So, I am wondering if this is a homemade engine cradle, and was built wrong. Anyone point me to somewhere that there is a picture of a correct one?

How about a picture of yours?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy

[bfrymire]

So, I am wondering if this is a homemade engine cradle, and was built wrong. Anyone point me to somewhere that there is a picture of a correct one?

How about a picture of yours?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy

That's going to be next. I am on my way to somewhere that I have to be presentable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) So, later, when I can afford to be dirty, I will crawl under and take another picture.

-- brett

[bfrymire]

So, I am wondering if this is a homemade engine cradle, and was built wrong. Anyone point me to somewhere that there is a picture of a correct one?

How about a picture of yours?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy

ok. I am risking being in the dog house. Here's some quick pics...

[bfrymire]

Another.

[bfrymire]

Yet another

[bfrymire]

Last one (for now.)

[Dave_Darling]

Yeah, that's an aftermarket mount. The problem could very well be that it's not made very well.

The stock mounting--and the better aftermarket ones--mount to the firewall, not to an engine mount bar.

Is there any chance the bar and bracketry is backwards?

--DD