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messix |
Nov 16 2008, 12:04 AM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
any one wanna guess what this is and who built it?
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Lou W |
Nov 16 2008, 12:06 AM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass...... Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain |
Lee Iacocca, Ford Mustang
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messix |
Nov 16 2008, 12:09 AM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
quick! yup. too bad it didn't make production. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_I
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LarryR |
Nov 16 2008, 01:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 929 Joined: 15-March 07 From: E. Bay Area, N. California Member No.: 7,604 |
It really sucks that they did not pay attention to a superior design. I have owned 4 mustangs but I wonder if it would have just been 1 if it wa a mid engine v8 beast! maybe that is the idea....... As they prepare to file bankruptcy!!!!!
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dw914er |
Nov 16 2008, 03:48 AM
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Planning Cities Group: Members Posts: 2,364 Joined: 1-March 08 From: Yucaipa, CA Member No.: 8,763 Region Association: Southern California |
An American car that can handle? jk the pantera was probably the closest thing to that Ford (in the MR sense) |
sixnotfour |
Nov 16 2008, 05:07 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,434 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
ya well my 1963 "Chevrolet" Corvair Spyder, had
an air cooled,hydraulic lifters,turbo charged flat six, tach,cylinder head temp gauge,boost gauge. hers "Chevy's" version mid proto 1963 also Attached thumbnail(s) |
ejm |
Nov 16 2008, 05:19 AM
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel Group: Members Posts: 2,693 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 224 Region Association: None |
Mustang 1 at the Ford museum in Dearborn
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ottox914 |
Nov 16 2008, 09:05 AM
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The glory that once was. Group: Members Posts: 1,302 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Mahtomedi, MN Member No.: 1,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Link to 1937 lincoln-zeypher.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lincoln...jpg#filehistory My uncle has one of these he is restoring, in addition to about a million other cool cars from the 20's to present. He tells this of the history of this car: Prof. Porsche came to the states to meet w/Henry Ford to learn about assembly line construction. Ford shared plans for this car: unit-body construction, rear mounted motor with transaxle, aerodynamic lines, bolt on fenders. If you look at the photo and follow the pin stripe line from the A pillar to the front bumper, imagine that hood sloping down to the bumper rather than having an upright grille. Remind you any of a certain "peoples car" ?. In the interest of getting the car to market, they updated the flathead V8 design and made a V12 out of it, changed the front of the car to hold the radiator and this new motor, and used existing trans and rear end. Early parts bin engineering? And so the car went to market as a front engined V12 watercooled car, although the plans were for a rear engine/transaxle design. If someone can surf up a rear photo of one of these, the likes are amazingly similar to, ah, an early bug... The day I was at his place I was leading a tour of my auto cross club thru the maze of amazing cars being done in his shops, and I forgot my canera!!! The had to build their own rig to hold and rotate the car for the body restoration. They had nothing in the shop that would hold it. Its a huge, heavy old 1903's car. And very cool. Is the story true- did Porsche "borrow" from the Fords plans for this car when he saw them in the early 1930's? Who really knows, but I prefer to think great minds can move in the same direction independently of each other. |
Bruce Hinds |
Nov 16 2008, 09:21 AM
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V-8 madness Group: Members Posts: 733 Joined: 27-December 06 From: Port Orchard, WA Member No.: 7,391 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
One of Cheverolet's experements was actually with a 914. They were one of the first to put a V8 in a Teener and used it to run some tests. Does anyone know that story?
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sixnotfour |
Nov 16 2008, 09:34 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,434 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
heres Chevy's 1968 corvette motored mid engine car.
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scottb |
Nov 16 2008, 09:35 AM
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who wants a PEZ?! Group: Members Posts: 1,993 Joined: 27-December 02 From: south-(not north)-wick, MA Member No.: 32 Region Association: North East States |
any one wanna guess what this is and who built it? that's not a mustang.... it's speed racers powerful mach 5!!!! Attached image(s) |
effutuo101 |
Nov 16 2008, 09:54 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,735 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
Hey Troy, you got it backwards. Ford and Chevy copied a 1923 Benz Tropfenwagen that was based on an earlier design (1921) i love that wikipedia thingy. Oh, and who was the design team on the 1923 design? Willy Walb, Hans Nibel and one Ferdinand Porsche.....
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Bruce Hinds |
Nov 16 2008, 10:02 AM
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V-8 madness Group: Members Posts: 733 Joined: 27-December 06 From: Port Orchard, WA Member No.: 7,391 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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JeffBowlsby |
Nov 16 2008, 10:13 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,533 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
The prototype corvette XP978GT was built on a 914/6 chassis.
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Wes V |
Nov 16 2008, 10:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 482 Joined: 11-October 07 From: Los angeles Member No.: 8,211 |
Ya, it was a mustang prototype.
As I recall, it had a Saab V4 engine. I love how the air intakes on the side are still carried over to this date. Wes |
sixnotfour |
Nov 16 2008, 11:02 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,434 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE The prototype corvette XP978GT was built on a 914/6 chassis. wankel project, Pininfarina bulit; http://www.mazda-auto.hu/wankel-chevrolet-corvette.html |
jimtab |
Nov 16 2008, 05:12 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,477 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Pacifica, California Member No.: 91 Region Association: Northern California |
In my opinion the "Big 3" for the most part, wouldn't know a good idea if it bit them in the ass. Less than a year ago the CEO of GM stated that "GM will not base it's production decisions on the oil markets" or something very near to that.....so how did he get the job? How the hell has he kept it? OF COURSE you base production decisions on market effects....holy shit! And, look how well things are working out for them......
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