Conversion Begins, NA EJ25 Progress thread Options

[Carlitos Way]

Well, the time has come to start documenting the whole ordeal and process. I've decided to do a subaru conversion. I hope I can have this done by January 1st, in hopes of doing the "Hangover Rally" once again.

The plans, somewhat flexible, involve:

Renegade Hybrids Kit
Renegade Hybrids Radiator
EJ25 Normally Aspirated (USDM) engine
Stock (Subaru) Fuel injection
Stainless Steel fuel lines

And some possible additions include:

Adjustable Front Sway Bar to replace the current one
Larger wheels
Lower profile tires
New interior
Back pad
Relocate power (Stereo)

Still unresolved and undecided
Fuel Pump. Which one, and where to mount.
How to run coolant hoses
How to vent warm air
Whether or not to cut/replace current front bumper.

So... this is her farewell picture

[Carlitos Way]

I was very lucky to have someone buy my motor including intake and exhaust, in one deal. So, this past Saturday, a little ahead of schedule, we ended up dropping the engine. The new owner drove down and took it home. Here's some pics of the progress.

First with the car jacked up. I used ramps in the front to give me a little more clearance. I also needed to have a little room to remove the fuel pump from under the fuel tank.

[boxstr]

This is in the classifieds..why?
CCLIN??

[Carlitos Way]

The bottom of the engine didn't seem too bad. You can see the Bursch and SS exhaust. And, she does like to mark her territory.

[Carlitos Way]

Darn it. I meant to place this in the garage. Hopefully one of the admins can help me move it to the right place.

[Gint]

Coming right up...

[bfrymire]

Well, the time has come to start documenting the whole ordeal and process. I've decided to do a subaru conversion. I hope I can have this done by January 1st, in hopes of doing the "Hangover Rally" once again.

The plans, somewhat flexible, involve:

Renegade Hybrids Kit
Renegade Hybrids Radiator
EJ25 Normally Aspirated (USDM) engine
Stock (Subaru) Fuel injection
Stainless Steel fuel lines

And some possible additions include:

Adjustable Front Sway Bar to replace the current one
Larger wheels
Lower profile tires
New interior
Back pad
Relocate power (Stereo)

Still unresolved and undecided
Fuel Pump. Which one, and where to mount.
How to run coolant hoses
How to vent warm air
Whether or not to cut/replace current front bumper.

So... this is her farewell picture

Hope I am not bursting your bubble here...

Have you ordered the renegade parts? the lead time is about 2 months, if I remember right.... You will not make the Jan 1st otherwise.

To make it easier to do the conversion, you might want to use an aftermarket ECU. Either the stinger or the Link.

Also, heater? You might as well take advantage of having hot water....

And where do you plan to get a motor? (JDMs are cheap from www.attarco.com )

Hope any of this helps somewhat. Best of luck with conversion, you will still finish before me! (I even have all the renegade parts already!!!)

-- brett

[EdwardBlume]

You braced the car up pretty well. How's your wallet braced? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Carlitos Way]

I have already ordered the kit from Renegade. I'm not going to get it as soon as I want... but there's a "chance" I might get a Christmas present from them this year.

ECU... for now it's the stock ECU. I just can't afford the $1300-1500 for a stinger or Link ECU right now. Especially when I already have the stock ECU. All I have right now is time... so I can work on the wiring harness until I get the conversion parts.

[Root_Werks]

Throw these jackstands out and get ones with pins. These have failed often enough that it's even affected one of our 914world members. Wiggling and jiggling the car around while doing work is what causes them to "let go".

[Carlitos Way]

Throw these jackstands out and get ones with pins. These have failed often enough that it's even affected one of our 914world members. Wiggling and jiggling the car around while doing work is what causes them to "let go".

Thanks for the tip. I will see what I can find... since these are going to be on for quite some time it seems.

C:>

[Nana's_914]

I have already ordered the kit from Renegade. I'm not going to get it as soon as I want... but there's a "chance" I might get a Christmas present from them this year.

ECU... for now it's the stock ECU. I just can't afford the $1300-1500 for a stinger or Link ECU right now. Especially when I already have the stock ECU. All I have right now is time... so I can work on the wiring harness until I get the conversion parts.

UTEC from TurboXS is a good inexpensive option for controlling the stock ECU. I got a good used one for my WRX for $500. Works pretty well.

[Carlitos Way]

Remember this is a Non-turbo (normally aspirated) engine conversion.

[ONTHEGRIND]

That is gonna be a sweet setup. As I do alot with Subaru performance products which is 90 percent turbo stuff or cylinder heads for turbo engine's, But the Idea of a N/A engine in a Nine4teen is awsome.. Might be h20 cooled engine but it's got 4 Valves per cylinder..

[westgl]

[quote name='Carlitos Way' date='Nov 25 2008, 08:38 PM' post='1105586']
Well, the time has come to start documenting the whole ordeal and process. I've decided to do a subaru conversion. I hope I can have this done by January 1st, in hopes of doing the "Hangover Rally" once again.

Hey Carlitos way,

Sorry, I bought the last engine/trans mount from Renegade, I did not buy the whole kit. I bought the motor adaptor, 9" clutch/pressure plate kit from KEP, and bought,

Just the Engine/Trans mount from Renegade.

I am using the stock WRX/STI radiator

I have my NA EJ25 2.5L in my shop, My motor is out of a 2004' Subie Forester that had been rearended totaled, My Subie dude started the engine to let me hear it run, before I bought it he is the guy the Subaru dealer buys from when they need an engine for a customer. The speedometer in the car read 50,106 miles

I got the complete wire harness Main ECU and all other computers, including Cruise control and engine fuse/relay box, both under dash and in passenger compartment

I also got the water heater core, saw a great way to make the heater install on another web site

as I buy and receive parts, I am chcking off the list and performing work as needed to keep my project going forward.

It Sounds like we are both doing the same project

[westgl]

Carlitos way

Have you thought about an exhaust,

I heard a Subie motor with the stock subie exhaust manifolds cut a few inches after the merge, (then get rid of the crossover tube, you want an equal length exhaust) then a 911 Carerra muffler, it's a 2 tube in and 2 out muffler, it sounded awesome with out being loud and nosiey. It sounded like a carerra 6 cyl.

With the exhaust, You should be looking at 185-195HP NA stocker

Poormans Lotus Elise? 11.0 Lbs. per H.P. Hmmmm

Hope your Brakes are up to it? Well! If you were any good you wouldn't need brakes, JUST the go button. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) lol

West

[Carlitos Way]

FOr an exhaust, I'm thinking about doing it the "easy" way as much as possible. I hope I can find just a stock manifold from a wrecking yard, chop it off a little after the two sides merge, weld the flange into a muffler, running it out the same location as stock. Might be a little too much to fit on that side, but only time will tell. Found a local guy who likes to fabricate, and he sounded excited about helping me with the exhaust. Now it's just a matter of going to the junkyard and finding one.

[Carlitos Way]

So, this is what she looks like with the engine off. I've taken a couple of days to settle down and now I'm working toward preparing the engine bay. The plans call for a stock ECU. WOuld love to mount it in the "stock" 914 location, but I'm not sure my wiring harness will reach. I have to do a mock up to see how far it will go. Another choice is to mount it in the rear trunk, but I'm avoiding holes, until I'm SURE I know what I'm doing.

[bfrymire]

I have already ordered the kit from Renegade. I'm not going to get it as soon as I want... but there's a "chance" I might get a Christmas present from them this year.

ECU... for now it's the stock ECU. I just can't afford the $1300-1500 for a stinger or Link ECU right now. Especially when I already have the stock ECU. All I have right now is time... so I can work on the wiring harness until I get the conversion parts.

I picked up my link used for $500. If you look, you can find a good deal. I personally think the ECU is worth it, just for the time it saves makes it worth it to me.

And I am going to get the exhaust stubs from outfront motorsports, and fabricate from that.

-- brett

[Carlitos Way]

And this is what I have left from the power train. Just the tranny. But.. do they all look this gross inside? Or was my rear main seal leaking?



On another note, I'm thnking about doing some minor reconditioning on this tranny. It has a slight grind between first and second. Dr. Evil might be doing the honors, once I decide to pull the trigger.