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Porsche social status, 911 owners vs 914 owners |
Geezer914 |
May 9 2009, 08:09 AM
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Geezer914 Group: Members Posts: 1,433 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States |
How are us 914 owners viewed by the 911 owners? Are we looked down upon as glorified VW owners or accepted as Porsche owners? In other words, you meet a car guy and he owns a 911 and you mention you own a Porsche also. When he asks you what model, and you say a 914, is he going to look down his nose at you or accept you as an equal?
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zymurgist |
May 9 2009, 08:16 AM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
Depends on the 911 owner.
I got slammed on the 911 bird boards for having a Corvette. I came here to ask questions about fixing a friend's 914, and was accepted. So I hang out with 914 folks rather than 911 folks. |
9146racing |
May 9 2009, 08:50 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 7-February 09 From: agoura hills Member No.: 10,031 Region Association: Southern California |
aaahhhhhhhh! these people are completly overrated! what is a REAL Porsche? it took years for the 356 crowd to accept the 911 as a Porsche,
there are alot of very cool 911 guys out there that don't even think down those lines, and then there are these guys who think they need to judge fellow Porsche drivers. dont even give them a platform, there are Porsches (914,924,944,928,boxter,cayenne,911 aircooled and watercooled)and weenies who just have no clue! thats my 2cents (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) |
smg914 |
May 9 2009, 10:17 AM
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Sahara Beige Steve Group: Members Posts: 1,962 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 1,695 Region Association: None |
Back in 1970 there were discussions about not allowing owners of 914s to join PCA. That idea was squashed but the 914 was not very respected until it gained respect the old fashion way.......it earned it. And a little thanks go's out to the 924. Today I believed the 914 is respected by the majority of 911 owners. In fact, it's amazing how many 911 owners either have a 914 or wish they had one.
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MDG |
May 9 2009, 11:10 AM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
I'd be willing to bet that the 911 owner who bought, drives and enjoys their car simply for what it is - and that's how it should be - would take their first drive in a well sorted 914 and have a blast. People who love cars, love cars.
The type of person who takes 'status' as the main consideration when buying a car, and then immediately looks down their nose at what they consider 'lesser' vehicles, are pretty easy to spot and avoid. They tend to be dullards anyway. Not only will they happily crap on your 914, they'll be eager to show you their better watch, their bigger house, their impressive . . . . Bottom line is, who care's? People who know, get it. Enjoy what you have and if that fades get something else. |
zymurgist |
May 9 2009, 11:30 AM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
The type of person who takes 'status' as the main consideration when buying a car, and then immediately looks down their nose at what they consider 'lesser' vehicles, are pretty easy to spot and avoid. They tend to be dullards anyway. Not only will they happily crap on your 914, they'll be eager to show you their better watch, their bigger house, their impressive . . . . two inch dick? |
MDG |
May 9 2009, 12:27 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
They tend to be dullards anyway. Not only will they happily crap on your 914, they'll be eager to show you their better watch, their bigger house, their impressive . . . . two inch dick? that's about the size of it . . . . compensating for something. |
zymurgist |
May 9 2009, 12:53 PM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
Yep, I figured that was where you were going with that train of thought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Pat Garvey |
May 9 2009, 07:26 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
This topic comes up from time to time, and it always amuses me.
Yeah, there was a very early PCA movement to have 914's banned. It failed. Remember, the "real"/356 Porsche owners had just gotten to realize that the 911 was somehting special. The comes the 912 amd 914/4 914/6 in rapis succession. Drove the old guys nuts! VW-914! Must be trash, right. Well, we earned our respect by whipping the snot out of all of them in autocrosses. Suddenly, we became acceptable. I remember flashing my fogs at 911's & 356's for 6 months before I got a flash back. That flash was from a dear departed bud, who opened his home to ALL Porsche derivatives. I should also say that the second time I got a flash back from someone was a Cincy cop! Stopped me just to let me know that he had one too. Forgot his name. We teeners have had our hard years early on. But we rule now. FWIW - I had me 914 for a couple of years before I got my first 911. As much as I love my teener, it really can't compare to an early 911, or my '73 T. I love them both, yet they are so different. I'd recommend that every 911 owner pony up for a 914. Subtle high performance. Yeah baby! Pat |
dcheek |
May 11 2009, 06:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
Whenever someone asks what kind of Porsche I have and I say a "914", and the stock response is, "Oh, that's the one with the VW engine", with the implication that that's a bad thing. I always fired back that the first real Porsche, with the exception of the body and "frame", was assembled almost entirely with VW parts. After all Porsche designed the VW. And, if you follow the heritage, VW, 356, 911, 912, 914, 964, 993,996,997, etc., they all go back to the little VW Bug. I describe my 911 as a VW Bug on steroids. There are many similarities like heater boxes, adjustment shims for belt tensioning, air cooling, torsion bar suspension, horizontally opposed engine, etc.
The way I look at it I get the best of both worlds. I can enter my VW-Porsche in the special interest class at a VW show or as a Porsche at a Porsche show. I've never really witnessed 911 owners looking down at the 914. I've had nothing but positive reinforcement throughout the 33 years of ownership of my car. I think anyone who has had negative feedback would have to chalk it up to that person not knowing the history behind the marque. Dave |
johannes |
May 11 2009, 12:19 PM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
QUOTE How are us 914 owners viewed by the 911 owners ? First thing they ask : Is it a six ? |
6freak |
May 11 2009, 12:57 PM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
[ First thing they ask : Is it a six ? [/quote] matter a fact it is ...AndI`ll bet I can put the smack down on you in the twisty`s lol..IMO nice cars are nice cars no matter the make or model and i think true car people dont care..Hell i even like a nice truck or bike,Quad ,drag car what ever,And dont forget the lastest thing RATROD`S Pretty much anything with a motor can be cool...........Dont like my car! ..Im ok with that cuzz your ugly..LMAO |
underthetire |
May 11 2009, 01:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
I always get the thumbs up from 911 guys. Seems more like old vs. new to me.
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Pat Garvey |
May 11 2009, 07:16 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
[quote name='6freak' date='May 11 2009, 12:57 PM' post='1168152']
[ First thing they ask : Is it a six ? [/quote] matter a fact it is ...AndI`ll bet I can put the smack down on you in the twisty`s lol..IMO nice cars are nice cars no matter the make or model and i think true car people dont care..Hell i even like a nice truck or bike,Quad ,drag car what ever,And dont forget the lastest thing RATROD`S Pretty much anything with a motor can be cool...........Dont like my car! ..Im ok with that cuzz your ugly..LMAO [/quote] I have to agree with you 100%! I cut my teeth on hypo MoPar, which I dragged every weekend. Constantly beaten by 327 Chevies, which I love. Regualarly beaten by Ford heavies on the street, which I love. Wanted a 240Z, came in in the wrong color. Almost bought a cool TR6 from the Porsche dealer before the 914. Any car that triggers the emotion behind the wheel. Your "ugly" comment reminds me of a fridge magnet I have from the 70's. "I may be fat, but you're ugly and I can go on a diet". Pat |
6freak |
May 12 2009, 08:25 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
[quote name='Pat Garvey' date='May 11 2009, 06:16 PM' post='1168302']
[quote name='6freak' date='May 11 2009, 12:57 PM' post='1168152'] [ First thing they ask : Is it a six ? [/quote] matter a fact it is ...AndI`ll bet I can put the smack down on you in the twisty`s lol..IMO nice cars are nice cars no matter the make or model and i think true car people dont care..Hell i even like a nice truck or bike,Quad ,drag car what ever,And dont forget the lastest thing RATROD`S Pretty much anything with a motor can be cool...........Dont like my car! ..Im ok with that cuzz your ugly..LMAO [/quote] I have to agree with you 100%! I cut my teeth on hypo MoPar, which I dragged every weekend. Constantly beaten by 327 Chevies, which I love. Regualarly beaten by Ford heavies on the street, which I love. Wanted a 240Z, came in in the wrong color. Almost bought a cool TR6 from the Porsche dealer before the 914. Any car that triggers the emotion behind the wheel. Your "ugly" comment reminds me of a fridge magnet I have from the 70's. "I may be fat, but you're ugly and I can go on a diet". Pat [/quote] I work with a guy that has a TR6 and the things just a peach.Maroon in color with mini lites Man what a cool car..but ya real car guys dont care what it is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
biosurfer1 |
May 14 2009, 04:06 PM
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Teener fo Life! Group: Members Posts: 3,020 Joined: 3-August 03 From: Roseville, CA Member No.: 977 Region Association: Northern California |
I think it's pathetic when anybody wastes their time saying things like "that's not a real Porsche" etc...what a sad, empty life they must have.
Am I the only one like cars for what they are, not what they mean? I've had 4 different Porsche models now and haven't spent 1 second worrying about what others thought of me or what I'm driving. I like the driving experience and would if it had any other emblem on the back:) |
MDG |
May 14 2009, 04:12 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
I think it's pathetic when anybody wastes their time saying things like "that's not a real Porsche" etc...what a sad, empty life they must have. Am I the only one like cars for what they are, not what they mean? I've had 4 different Porsche models now and haven't spent 1 second worrying about what others thought of me or what I'm driving. I like the driving experience and would if it had any other emblem on the back:) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) 100% The second you start worrying what other people think, you become one of those 'other people' |
eg914 |
May 14 2009, 10:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 319 Joined: 17-June 04 From: Elk Grove, CA Member No.: 2,223 Region Association: None |
Other people think? I learn something new every day!
I don't think it matters what a car is as long as it resonates with you. You should drive what you like, and not care if others agree. Besides, if they don't agree they are most likely wrong ;-) |
Rav914 |
May 14 2009, 10:53 PM
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All-weather fan Group: Members Posts: 738 Joined: 15-April 07 From: WA Member No.: 7,669 Region Association: None |
Enthusiasts are enthusiasts. A lot of 911 owners (Porsche enthusiasts) love 914's. In fact I'd wager they like 930 turbos as much as 40hp beetles.
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EdwardBlume |
May 15 2009, 03:59 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
It all breaks down to this:
911 owners who are DRIVERS respect the 914 (its a real Porsche) 911 owners at the wine and cheese mixer who are SNOBS need a smuck to stand on (the 914). When I was in the local PCA club at events I'd get asked, "so what do you drive?", I'd tell 'em - A 914 - best way to seperate the kind of people I want to hang out with (and I had a polar silver, LSD, special order 993 the whole time)! 914s Rule. |
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