 new day, new problem, will not go into any gear. grrrrrr |
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| nycchef |
 Jun 2 2009, 02:48 PM
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mechanical moron  Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None  |
73 914 w/ 74 2.0 dual weber 40's. finally sorted out the linkage problem and car starts right up , idles a little rough @ about 1000 rpms. decided to take a little spin before balancing the carbs. no such luck, clutch (which is new) won't engage in any gear, just grinds and the engines revs up to about 2000 when the clutch is dpressed, now i'm depressed. never touched the center tunnel when i switched the engine out, clutch and accellerator cables are the same. could they be croosed or tangled somewhere?
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| Scott S |
Jun 2 2009, 03:03 PM
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Small Member Group: Members Posts: 1,698 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 633 |
your throttle cable is wrapped around your clutch cable in the center tunnel. I have seen it a pile of times - primarily on carbed cars where you are working the throttle from the engine compartment, vs actually hitting that gas pedal. I will bet the problem is located at the front of the tunnel, close to the pedal cluster. Pull the carpet and foot board and poke around....
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| nycchef |
Jun 2 2009, 03:08 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Scott Schroeder @ Jun 2 2009, 01:03 PM)  your throttle cable is wrapped around your clutch cable in the center tunnel. I have seen it a pile of times - primarily on carbed cars where you are working the throttle from the engine compartment, vs actually hitting that gas pedal. I will bet the problem is located at the front of the tunnel, close to the pedal cluster. Pull the carpet and foot board and poke around.... good possibility , haven't used the gas pedal until today, would that keep the clutch from engaging , it,s mushy as hell and has a very short stroke, or am i looking at a different problem |
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| Derek Seymour |
Jun 2 2009, 03:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 394 Joined: 10-March 09 From: Yucaipa Member No.: 10,151 Region Association: Southern California |
As far as the grinding goes you probably just need to tighten the adjuster nut(s) on the clutch cable. The reving... could be that when you depress the clutch the rod it rotates on catches a bit and spins which twists the accel linkage at the pedal assembly... but i'm totally guessing on that part.
Edit- sort out the cable wrap up in the tunnel then you can dial in the clutch adjustor nut. |
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| tat2dphreak |
Jun 2 2009, 04:21 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
scott beat me to it... I remember this issue popping up quite a few times... once I fixed this on mine, my accel cable started 'hanging' after a full-throttle punch because it got into a bind...
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| nycchef |
Jun 2 2009, 04:41 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ Jun 2 2009, 02:21 PM) scott beat me to it... I remember this issue popping up quite a few times... once I fixed this on mine, my accel cable started 'hanging' after a full-throttle punch because it got into a bind... i.ll dig into it tonight. new territory for me. damn these cars have some wierd problems (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) |
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| r_towle |
Jun 2 2009, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(nycchef @ Jun 2 2009, 06:41 PM) QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ Jun 2 2009, 02:21 PM) scott beat me to it... I remember this issue popping up quite a few times... once I fixed this on mine, my accel cable started 'hanging' after a full-throttle punch because it got into a bind... i.ll dig into it tonight. new territory for me. damn these cars have some wierd problems (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Ever wonder why so many people can answer certain questions? Well, we have all BTDT... When you replace the throttle cable (the first time) you will also most likely make the same mistake. The fix is simple..seeing in the tunnel is not. The throttle cable does a single loop around the clutch cable.. the fix, as stated above is to remove the throttle cable from the pedal, then, with a mirror, figure out which way you need to unwrap it from the clutch cable... Good luck. RIch |
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| nycchef |
Jun 2 2009, 07:57 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
The fix is simple..seeing in the tunnel is not. The throttle cable does a single loop around the clutch cable.. the fix, as stated above is to remove the throttle cable from the pedal, then, with a mirror, figure out which way you need to unwrap it from the clutch cable... Good luck. RIch [/quote] truer words have never been spoken, after taking out the center console (5th time) it ain't goin back in till i put 1000 miles on this car. i reached around and fiddles with the cable, accelerator cable nut was just about off , tightened it down in the tunnel and at the linkage and the accelation problem seems to have been fixed. car still won't go into gear. pedal only travels about 2 -3 inches and is mushy as heck. when you push it down by hand. it doesn't come up to the stop in the cluster, i.m hoping the cable needs to be tightened and thats all. unfortunatly i have a previous commitment to a bottle of patron silver and the deep end of my pool. i will fight that fight on the weekend. p.s. rich i rewired the horn button again like you said and it seems solid. unfortunatly i had to take the steering wheel off to get my head to the cluster, so we'll have to wait on that also. christ i'm long winded tonight, again thanks to all |
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| Dr Evil |
Jun 2 2009, 08:03 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Ya want me to come out and un-fuck your car next week some time? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| nycchef |
Jun 2 2009, 08:13 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Jun 2 2009, 06:03 PM) Ya want me to come out and un-fuck your car next week some time? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) wow i knew a giy named dr. evil back in the day, but he chose saving lives over saving rusted out v.w's. i told leo (remember him) he has eight kids, goes on golf outings and wears a suit to work now, you might have some free time after the 5th and he wants to have a bbq for you, if he can't i will, of course i want you to come up, screw the car,we,ll hang out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) |
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| degreeoff |
Jun 2 2009, 08:24 PM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
When I BTDT....only once! I used a dental mirror & small flashlight by the pedal cluster....
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| Dr Evil |
Jun 2 2009, 08:32 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(nycchef @ Jun 2 2009, 10:13 PM) QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Jun 2 2009, 06:03 PM) Ya want me to come out and un-fuck your car next week some time? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) wow i knew a giy named dr. evil back in the day, but he chose saving lives over saving rusted out v.w's. i told leo (remember him) he has eight kids, goes on golf outings and wears a suit to work now, you might have some free time after the 5th and he wants to have a bbq for you, if he can't i will, of course i want you to come up, screw the car,we,ll hang out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) I am a free man after the 5th so any time is good for me pretty much. I love the BBQ and I can solve all of your problems (car) in a day most likely. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If "Leo the Breeder" can make it, all the better. Maybe I'll do an over night so I can get real drunk and surly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| nycchef |
Jun 2 2009, 09:25 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
Maybe I'll do an over night so I can get real drunk and surly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
[/quote] let me know we.ll set you up here .bring noel. car is in good shape once the clutch issue is dealt with ( providing it.s an adjustment) it;s ready to go gonna have the longs welded and por 15 the bottom at the end of the season |
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| Dr Evil |
Jun 2 2009, 10:11 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I've been there before to help him out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| nycchef |
Jun 2 2009, 10:12 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(esses62 @ Jun 2 2009, 08:06 PM) Wow Richie you've got some pull. If Evil stops by I've got to drive over and say hello (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) first time we met he came up and spent 8 hours fixing my f.i. and adjusting the valves in 90 degree heat . stuffed him with pulled pork and baby backs. a trully fine individual (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif) |
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| Dr Evil |
Jun 2 2009, 10:35 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Fine individual, food whore.....potato, patato (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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| nycchef |
Jun 3 2009, 07:23 AM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Jun 2 2009, 08:35 PM) and now back to our originally scheduled program so today is a real work day, but tomorrow i will attempt the clutch adjustment, i have this part that goes on at the end of the clutch cable (looks like a brass house key with a hole in it ), clutch stop plate, to hold the cable in place. does anyone have a pic as to how this device is installed? important update mike..... babybacks, pulled pork ,beer can chicken patron silver, beer all this can be yours.............for a price (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
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