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bonding fiberglass flares to steel, What is the best?? |
pete-stevers |
Jun 11 2009, 10:34 AM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,642 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
just wondering what you guys have used to bond the fiber glass to the steel fenders? what have you used, how many years have you run with it??
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jmill |
Jun 11 2009, 10:42 AM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
There was a recent topic about it. You might want to have them bolt on. There's a blue car out there that looks fantastic.
I rough up the metal and use a 2 part 3M epoxy when I bond glass to metal. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...berglass+flares |
pete-stevers |
Jun 11 2009, 11:28 AM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,642 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
no thanks to the bolt on look, on someone else's car they are just fine, but not on mine.
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Dr. Roger |
Jun 11 2009, 12:06 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
a rough scuff on both surfaces, 2 part epoxy applied to both surfaces, drill-screwed, 3 inches on center, to fender and let to cure for a week before driving.
removed screws after 3? months. 2 years later, zero cracks,zero imperfections and that's without body stiffening and a V8 car. so you know that body is flexing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) i would definitely do it again. |
pete-stevers |
Jun 12 2009, 03:06 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,642 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
what type of two part epoxy did you use?
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scotty b |
Jun 12 2009, 03:14 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Need the gun that costs about 40.00 or you can try to borrow one from a local shop
http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/3m-automix...-11231-594.aspx |
jmill |
Jun 12 2009, 03:26 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have one you can borrow. You need the tips though. It's a swirly type deal that mixes it up.
edit - Just saw your in Canada. With shipping costs you might be able to buy one cheaper. http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/3m-automix...93-p-10859.aspx |
pcar916 |
Jun 12 2009, 04:38 PM
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Is that a Lola? Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None |
Mine have been on for about 17 years and are still strong, and that's through many years of track and road use with several sets of tires and wheels with various offsets. You know, rubbing the flares now and again. No problems after they were relieved, but the shop that did the flare work left in the rivets. I didn't know that of course until lately.
The different expansion rates eventually crack and bubble the paint/substrate. Whichever solution you use, leave no metal in there or you'll be patching it... down the road. Good Luck! RKM |
pete-stevers |
Jun 12 2009, 05:05 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,642 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(scotty b @ Jun 12 2009, 02:14 PM) </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Need the gun that costs about 40.00 or you can try to borrow one from a local shop http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/3m-automix...-11231-594.aspx [/quote] how much of the goop will i need? |
andys |
Jun 12 2009, 05:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 21-May 03 From: Valencia, CA Member No.: 721 Region Association: None |
what type of two part epoxy did you use? I used a two-part epxoy adhesive called PC-7. No need for the $40 gun. Available from the Do-It Center, ACE Hardware, etc. http://www.pcepoxy.com/pastepoxies/pastepc7.asp Andys |
rick 918-S |
Jun 12 2009, 08:59 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,481 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
There is aproduct called Vette Panel adhesive. Very good for bonding glas to steel. Grind the panel inside and out. Pre-fit the flares. Any metal edge that doesn't contact the glass use a body hammer and flare the metal to meet the glass. Bond the panels with The Panel adhesive recommended or the Vette Panel adhesive, Glass the flares to the inside and outside of the steel making a glass and steel sandwich. Be sure to prep the inside of the flares and fenders and paint them properly and the work will last a long time like mine. 1994 to date.
Disclaimer: I hate glass flares. They change shape in the sun, they read through the paint, and they require more work to finish than steel. |
charliew |
Jun 14 2009, 11:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
Almost any fg repair that uses stranded fg will print through after awhile. Thats why you should always gel coat over the bare fg before the primercoats are started.
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