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Hey paint and body guys, have a look at this, and tell me what you think..... |
URY914 |
Sep 15 2009, 08:10 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,758 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
This started as a paint bubble and grew to about 2" in diameter than it cracked and opened up.
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URY914 |
Sep 15 2009, 08:12 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,758 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I decided to open up the wound and see if it was terminal.
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URY914 |
Sep 15 2009, 08:14 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,758 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
The paint peeled off like the icing on a cake...
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URY914 |
Sep 15 2009, 08:15 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,758 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Finally I get down to the real problem, 3rd degree rust...
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URY914 |
Sep 15 2009, 08:17 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,758 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I clean it up with a wire brush on a grinder and get the rusted area down to clean metal...
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Ferg |
Sep 15 2009, 08:18 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Bummer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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ClayPerrine |
Sep 15 2009, 08:23 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,474 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Wow!!!! You are adding a LOT Of bondo... that sucker is gonna double the weight of your car!!!!
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URY914 |
Sep 15 2009, 08:23 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,758 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Now I have a open wound that is about 12" x 6". Bondo, primer and paint at the edges.
So now for the expert advice: How do I treat this??? Etching primer? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Rust neutralizer? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Strip the entire lid? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
URY914 |
Sep 15 2009, 08:24 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,758 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Wow!!!! You are adding a LOT Of bondo... that sucker is gonna double the weight of your car!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Its for my daily driver so weight is not a factor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
bcheney |
Sep 15 2009, 08:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 16-November 03 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1,348 Region Association: South East States |
Strip, inhibit, prime and "paint the mother PINK"!!!!
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URY914 |
Sep 15 2009, 08:37 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,758 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
"strip" and "pink" in the same reply......go figure.
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FourBlades |
Sep 15 2009, 08:53 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,054 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
...strip...pink...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Kinda reminds me of the movie "Alien". If you find more areas like this it may be easier to get a new lid that is in better shape. I don't think you want to get metal ready or ospho on the exposed bondo edges. John |
McMark |
Sep 15 2009, 09:11 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I vote new lid.
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URY914 |
Sep 15 2009, 09:19 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,758 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
New lid?
Think GREEN! Recycle, don't throw away. |
Bleyseng |
Sep 15 2009, 09:50 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Grind to clean metal, treat, prime with epoxy paint primer, coat with sanding primer and then finish color ....
yah see now why ya can't bondo over rust? It keeps on rusting... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) |
iamchappy |
Sep 15 2009, 10:22 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Fiberglass lid option.....
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carr914 |
Sep 15 2009, 10:41 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,774 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I'm going to Gary's tomorrow, I'll see which extra lid I gave them to use on my car. I'll let you know.
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dakotaewing |
Sep 15 2009, 10:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,160 Joined: 8-July 03 From: DeSoto, Tx Member No.: 897 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Wait.... I mean weight...
Is that a METAL lid??? You could lose at least 10-15 pounds by going to fiberglass! And we all know fiberglass doesn't rust! I would have figured that to have been one of the very first things you would have done... |
rick 918-S |
Sep 15 2009, 11:26 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,464 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
It looks like the filler was spread over rust or the filler cracked at one point allowing moisture to creep under the filler. Because it's an outer skin and a large panel I would suggest stripping all the filler and paint off the panel and starting over. If the work over the top of the rust was done that poorly it's likely there is other work on that panel that will come back to haunt you..
The other reason for stripping off all the old work is a problem with the new filler blending into the old fill without causing bridging when the paint is applied. What is likely to take place is a swelling of the edge around the new filler that will be visible after painting. You end up with a bunch of islands and bannanas all over the panel. For the little extra time you will spend stripping the old work off it will be worth it. Then any place that has that old pitted rust I would hit it with a spot blaster. Here's a link to the tool I'm refering to. There are some very affordable ones out there. Try Harbor Freight and other places if you don't already own one. http://www.eastwood.com/spot-blaster-with-...pot_sandblaster Use a good metal conditioner, Bump some of that old damage out before just trowling all that filler back on.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) The rest is basic bodywork 101. |
scrz914 |
Sep 16 2009, 12:01 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 397 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Santa Cruz, CA Member No.: 1,960 Region Association: Central California |
BONDORAMA!
I've seen that before. It would be alot easier to by a used, straight lid that try to get that one down to bare metal, then get it straight. |
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