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Bad Steering Coupler, just for reference |
McMark |
Apr 15 2010, 04:23 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Here's what your steering coupler might look like. This is a dangerous situation. If this coupler fails completely, you will lose steering control. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yikes.gif)
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ghuff |
Apr 15 2010, 04:27 PM
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This is certainly not what I expected down here. Group: Members Posts: 849 Joined: 21-May 09 From: Bodymore Murderland Member No.: 10,389 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
By now almost all of them are probably bad from rubber degradation with age.
Those rag joints suck too, are they on all 914's? If my 75 has one, I'm getting that fucker out and replacing it with a u joint somehow someway. |
ericread |
Apr 15 2010, 04:52 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
I replaced mine last year with an aluminum billet biscuit. No more rubber donut for me!
Eric Read Edit: Here's a stock photo: |
PeeGreen 914 |
Apr 15 2010, 04:54 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I still have the rubber in but have the billet sitting on the shelf. My rubber is fine though....that other is down right scarey.
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MikeSpraggi |
Apr 15 2010, 05:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 781 Joined: 7-February 05 From: Silver Spring, Md Member No.: 3,570 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Where can you purchase the billet one?
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underthetire |
Apr 15 2010, 05:13 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Dam you. First the master cylinder flex now this. I'm afraid to drive home now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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r_towle |
Apr 15 2010, 05:17 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,588 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
I replaced mine with a hockey puck (not kidding)
Its easy to find, cheap to buy and simple to drill. I will use a bruins puck on the next one so the new owner will have a bit of Boston to take with them. I reused the steel inserts that are (were) in the rubber donut and put them in the hockey puck. I ground them down a little to make them flush.. There is enough play in the system to loose the 1/8 inch. Rich |
ghuff |
Apr 15 2010, 05:22 PM
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This is certainly not what I expected down here. Group: Members Posts: 849 Joined: 21-May 09 From: Bodymore Murderland Member No.: 10,389 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I replaced mine with a hockey puck (not kidding) Its easy to find, cheap to buy and simple to drill. I will use a bruins puck on the next one so the new owner will have a bit of Boston to take with them. I reused the steel inserts that are (were) in the rubber donut and put them in the hockey puck. I ground them down a little to make them flush.. There is enough play in the system to loose the 1/8 inch. Rich That works fine. I make engine mounts for 3rd gen watercooled VW's out of hockey pucks. Buck a puck, can not beat that. They have held up to 500+hp as well before. You know on second thought i can see it working but I worry about the torsional force they would be subjected to. They are very stiff, like polyurethane bushings when they disintegrate instead of wear like rubber since rubber can absorb impact........ IDK. I'd rock it for a while but would go metal or to a u joint. But it looks like metal would be ok, does not need to articulate much. |
SirAndy |
Apr 15 2010, 06:07 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Would a later model 911 coupler work? They sure look the same ...
As for "down right scarey", it's basically just a Hardy-Disk. Commonly used on a huge amount of automobiles for various applications. My 280SE Mercedes used one to couple the driveshaft front to the rear. They are used to reduce vibrations. I'm almost certain a 911 unit would fit and they're probably still available brand new ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
r_towle |
Apr 15 2010, 06:24 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,588 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
I replaced mine with a hockey puck (not kidding) Its easy to find, cheap to buy and simple to drill. I will use a bruins puck on the next one so the new owner will have a bit of Boston to take with them. I reused the steel inserts that are (were) in the rubber donut and put them in the hockey puck. I ground them down a little to make them flush.. There is enough play in the system to loose the 1/8 inch. Rich That works fine. I make engine mounts for 3rd gen watercooled VW's out of hockey pucks. Buck a puck, can not beat that. They have held up to 500+hp as well before. You know on second thought i can see it working but I worry about the torsional force they would be subjected to. They are very stiff, like polyurethane bushings when they disintegrate instead of wear like rubber since rubber can absorb impact........ IDK. I'd rock it for a while but would go metal or to a u joint. But it looks like metal would be ok, does not need to articulate much. A hockey puck is rubber or some sort. Its not brittle...it closes up on the drill when you are doing it and it smells like rubber. In the original unit there are steel sleeves for the bolts to go through so you are clamping down on those steel tubes. I used those, had to grind off a bit to get them flush with the puck...works fine. The bolts are dealing with the force, not the puck...its just a spacer so you wont feel bumps... Rich |
r_towle |
Apr 15 2010, 06:25 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,588 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Just looking at it again...I only used two bolts so its directly bolted right through the hockey puck...simple.
Rich |
zx-niner |
Apr 15 2010, 06:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 13-June 05 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 4,269 Region Association: Central California |
Holy cow! That's not my car, is it?
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McMark |
Apr 15 2010, 06:59 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Bwahahaha! I took your gas tank out without telling you!
No, it's a car you probably didn't even notice cause you were drooling on the Limo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
ChrisFoley |
Apr 15 2010, 07:40 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,934 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
I have Delrin couplers in stock, just haven't gotten them on the website yet.
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SirAndy |
Apr 15 2010, 07:54 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I'm almost certain a 911 unit would fit and they're probably still available brand new ... Part: 901.347.201.02 Steering Rack Coupler Fits: Porsche 914 1970-76 Porsche 911 1974-89 Porsche 930 Turbo 1975-89 Around $90, i'm sure you can find it for less if you look around ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
SirAndy |
Apr 15 2010, 07:55 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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McMark |
Apr 15 2010, 10:11 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Huh, how 'bout that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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zonedoubt |
Apr 16 2010, 11:53 AM
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Canadian Member Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 14-May 03 From: Vancouver, BC Member No.: 696 Region Association: Canada |
Can the rubber coupler be replaced without dropping the whole steering rack?
I just put my front end back together and reused the coupler. It didn't look too bad except for some gaps around the metal sleeves. I'm now thinking maybe I should've replaced it while I was in there (except the Porsche dealer wanted $145 for a new one!). |
McMark |
Apr 16 2010, 12:04 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
The plastic cover (missing in my first pic) is in the way. You'll have to pull the rack to get to the coupler. If the plastic is gone (cut it?) you might be able to do it with the rack in place.
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veltror |
Apr 16 2010, 12:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: 27-April 08 From: Potters Bar Herts UK Member No.: 8,978 Region Association: None |
I wonder if two beetle steering discs together would work, or does it have to be a single piece?
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