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| tat2dphreak |
 May 5 2010, 07:04 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya  Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region   |
ok, over the past 6 years, I've done damn near everything on my car... the transmission is probably the only part 'untouched' and even it got new seals and every linkage bushing...
but now, when I drive it, I'm nit-picky, and every little thing seems to cause worry... example... yesterday it got up to the high 80s outside, and my car, in stop-go traffic got up to slightly less than 220 on the way home... and I started worrying of over heat... every rattle, noise, smell or anything a 40 year old car could have, worries me bonkers to the point the fun in the car is far upset by the paranoia... does anyone else get like this? |
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| rwilner |
May 5 2010, 07:55 PM
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No Ghosts in the Machine Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: 30-March 10 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 11,530 Region Association: North East States |
FWIW--There is no way to have this much fun in a car for so little money.
Eveyone who owns a teener has their own reasons for buying one. Here's mine: I bought a 914 instead of trading in my accord for something moderately more entertaining, because the purchase price of the 914 was ONE THIRD the cost of any reasonably fun car, and more like one fifth to one tenth the cost of any very fun car. Also, when I first started out with my car, it was doing some funny things -- flat spot at 3k rpm, some smoking on startup. know what I did? I drove it for 500 miles. The car thanked me and those problems went away. I say drive the sh*t out of your car. That's it's mission in life. If something breaks, fix it and keep driving. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Life is too short! |
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| 1970 Neun vierzehn |
May 5 2010, 08:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
My concern is less about the car and a whole lot more about the dumb, stupid, reckless, and mindless, semi-comatose people who are "operating" motor vehicles.
To wit: Testosterone hyped dudes in lifted, duallie P/Us with cab lights and chrome stacks running half a car length behind you when your already 10 over on the interstate. Half-comatose, clueless seniors wandering through stop signs and blowing red lights as they peer through those huge cataract sunglasses while pointing their Buicks and Mercurys in the general direction they think they want to go. Blond, latte-drinking, cell phone yakking women who feel "entitled" to be in front of you simply because they're blond, have a 5000 lb SUV, and are certain that they are on a higher socio-economic ladder than you, so they always have the right-of-way. Soccer moms, mini-vans, and phones......the definition of distracted driver The rusty, 12 year old "ricer" in three different colors, an outsized wing, a fat phfart pipe, with max bass pumping out, weaving and bobbing through traffic as if this car were equiped with carbon-fiber brakes and the latest suspension technology. All this "sophistication" is in the care of someone with maybe 18 months of driving experience. The young girl in the 3 year old Kia with the space-saver on the front, doing 15 over in the fast lane, one car length behind a 10 axle dump truck, that is hanging on the bumper of the bimbo pushing her Lex-Infin-illac ever closer to your rare, early style 914 rear bumper, as you pedal furiously in your 1.7 looking for a hole in the slow lane to dive into, but you can't 'cause the slow lane is clogged with 18 wheelers, cement mixers and mini-vans. The driving environment just isn't what it used to be when I bought the 914 35 years ago. (thus spake the "dinosaur") Paul |
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| Ferg |
May 5 2010, 08:14 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ May 5 2010, 06:08 PM)  My concern is less about the car and a whole lot more about the dumb, stupid, reckless, and mindless, semi-comatose people who are "operating" motor vehicles. To wit: Testosterone hyped dudes in lifted, duallie P/Us with cab lights and chrome stacks running half a car length behind you when your already 10 over on the interstate. Half-comatose, clueless seniors wandering through stop signs and blowing red lights as they peer through those huge cataract sunglasses while pointing their Buicks and Mercurys in the general direction they think they want to go. Blond, latte-drinking, cell phone yakking women who feel "entitled" to be in front of you simply because they're blond, have a 5000 lb SUV, and are certain that they are on a higher socio-economic ladder than you, so they always have the right-of-way. Soccer moms, mini-vans, and phones......the definition of distracted driver The rusty, 12 year old "ricer" in three different colors, an outsized wing, a fat phfart pipe, with max bass pumping out, weaving and bobbing through traffic as if this car were equiped with carbon-fiber brakes and the latest suspension technology. All this "sophistication" is in the care of someone with maybe 18 months of driving experience. The young girl in the 3 year old Kia with the space-saver on the front, doing 15 over in the fast lane, one car length behind a 10 axle dump truck, that is hanging on the bumper of the bimbo pushing her Lex-Infin-illac ever closer to your rare, early style 914 rear bumper, as you pedal furiously in your 1.7 looking for a hole in the slow lane to dive into, but you can't 'cause the slow lane is clogged with 18 wheelers, cement mixers and mini-vans. The driving environment just isn't what it used to be when I bought the 914 35 years ago. (thus spake the "dinosaur") Paul What Paul said, oh and rock chips, I hate rock chips |
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| tat2dphreak |
May 5 2010, 08:25 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
yea, there's all that too... plus the fact that really, there's no way to drive it like it should without fear of the man! I'm constantly wondering.. is that a roof-rack on that SUV, or lights that's about to start flashing... the mirror shakes to much to say with any certainty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
yes the 914 is 'cheap' fun, but it's no longer 'cheap'... I've put in a huge bit of cash(as I'm sure much of us have) over 6 years... yea, drivers make me feel a real sense of mortality every day I drive here. 914 or not. |
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| jd74914 |
May 5 2010, 08:29 PM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,782 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(rwilner @ May 5 2010, 08:55 PM) I say drive the sh*t out of your car. That's it's mission in life. If something breaks, fix it and keep driving. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Life is too short! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) If you ask anyone who knows me they'd tell you that is exactly what I do. I take good care of my car, but really do beat the hell out of it. It keeps coming back for more so everything seems to be good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Kirmizi |
May 5 2010, 08:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 836 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Wyoming, US Member No.: 5,568 Region Association: None |
QUOTE What Paul said, oh and rock chips, I hate rock chips And slow drivers that plug up the left lane.... Other than that, drive it like you stole it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Mike |
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| hot_shoe914 |
May 5 2010, 08:36 PM
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on ramp passer Group: Members Posts: 3,802 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Earle, Ar. Member No.: 8,354 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(rwilner @ May 5 2010, 08:55 PM) I say drive the sh*t out of your car. That's it's mission in life. If something breaks, fix it and keep driving. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Life is too short! You've seen my cars and you have heard the stories! |
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| 1968Cayman |
May 5 2010, 08:38 PM
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Redacted by Irving Washington Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 5-February 10 From: Holly Springs, GA Member No.: 11,332 Region Association: South East States |
Some of the best times I've ever had in life began because of breakdowns. Just keep your tools at hand and stop worrying.
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| Dr Evil |
May 5 2010, 09:16 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I really only feel that way after they are painted. Fresh paint is the biggest magnet for dumbasses.
Now that my bus is running, I am still anxious for something major to go wrong. I just play through the pain. Its even worse with motorcycles. Everyone is out to get you, new paint or not. |
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| VaccaRabite |
May 5 2010, 09:33 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Wayne, I know exactly how you feel.
Every rattle. Every movement. I am still learning the car. its the first car that I have built largely alone. its like I am expecting it to fail at any moment sometimes. I have gotten to the point where I believe my engine will get me to where I need to get to, but I don't have any faith in my electrical system. Right now it is my headlights. They are ghetto rigged, but still not working right. i am concerned about it enough that i am not driving the car - and I *WANT* to be driving my car. So, yeah. I know exactly how you feel. Zach |
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| rnellums |
May 5 2010, 09:42 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I always feel like the car works great on its own and its only when I start messing with it that it turns around and bites me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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| Betty |
May 5 2010, 09:42 PM
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Driver Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 10-December 04 From: Hurst, TX Member No.: 3,255 Region Association: South East States
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"... plus the fact that really, there's no way to drive it like it should without fear of the man! I'm constantly wondering.. is that a roof-rack on that SUV, or lights that's about to start flashing..."
Dude.... you need to come out to an autocross. The only cops there are the ones that pulled in to watch us race and ask about the cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The more I race my car in a controlled environment, the saner I tend to drive on the road, and the better able I am to avoid the idiots out there. Knowledge and skills will give you power! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) The local PCA region here (Maverick) is VERY supportive of new people. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Not to mention.... it's a heck of a lot of fun. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| turboman808 |
May 5 2010, 09:54 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,718 Joined: 31-January 06 From: North Jersey Member No.: 5,505 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(rwilner @ May 5 2010, 05:55 PM) FWIW--There is no way to have this much fun in a car for so little money. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) I don't worry to much about breaking my car. More worried I will push it to far and wreck it. |
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| jim_hoyland |
May 5 2010, 10:09 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,319 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ May 5 2010, 06:04 PM) ok, over the past 6 years, I've done damn near everything on my car... the transmission is probably the only part 'untouched' and even it got new seals and every linkage bushing... but now, when I drive it, I'm nit-picky, and every little thing seems to cause worry... example... yesterday it got up to the high 80s outside, and my car, in stop-go traffic got up to slightly less than 220 on the way home... and I started worrying of over heat... every rattle, noise, smell or anything a 40 year old car could have, worries me bonkers to the point the fun in the car is far upset by the paranoia... does anyone else get like this? An interesting observation about the 914; and, not common for a new cars--even a Toyota. I think the 'noia is a result of the brain working overtime, kinda like dreaming, but awake. |
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| Dr Evil |
May 5 2010, 10:50 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I realized that since I can do basically everything besides paint and body, I worry so much less about that stuff. With a /6 engine, it really is the money aspect more than anything that concerns me when I see smoke rings billowing out of my tail pipe.
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| Jake Raby |
May 5 2010, 10:55 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
If you are that worried you aren't enjoying the car.. You are also creating somewhat of a safety hazard for others because you aren't concentrating on driving.
Whats going to happen, is going to happen. What makes one good at working on these cars and engines is having to work on the damn things. When I was a kid growing up in these rural mountains I either had to fix the problem with what I had on hand or I didn't go anywhere, there were no parts houses (and still aren't) and no one had comprehension of the cars... Get in the car and drive the damn thing. Deal with the issues if they come up and enjoy the car, the issues you'll encounter and have to solve will build character. I've restored a vehicle to include the engine and all other components (pan off), having only driven it up the road for 5 miles and then made a 10 hour drive the next day with flawless results. I did that at age 17. Over time you'll build confidence. Over the years I have found myself on the side of the road using what I had on hand or what I could find on the side of the road to make patch up repairs to get to my destination. I pretty much will jump in any car in my lot and drive it an hour home and never flinch or worry. Hell I only check my oil once every six months in my 912E, its been three years since I changed it... 160K in 7 years and it still goes and goes. It is exactly what you make it. |
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| Elliot Cannon |
May 5 2010, 11:01 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None 
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[quote name='jim_hoyland' post='1314364' date='May 5 2010, 09:09 PM']
[quote name='tat2dphreak' post='1314254' date='May 5 2010, 06:04 PM'] ok, over the past 6 years, I've done damn near everything on my car... the transmission is probably the only part 'untouched' and even it got new seals and every linkage bushing... but now, when I drive it, I'm nit-picky, and every little thing seems to cause worry... example... yesterday it got up to the high 80s outside, and my car, in stop-go traffic got up to slightly less than 220 on the way home... and I started worrying of over heat... every rattle, noise, smell or anything a 40 year old car could have, worries me bonkers to the point the fun in the car is far upset by the paranoia... does anyone else get like this? [/qu An interesting observation about the 914; and, not common for a new cars--even a Toyota. I think the 'noia is a result of the brain working overtime, kinda like dreaming, but awake. [/quote] Spoke the one who never drives more than 30 miles from home. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
May 5 2010, 11:07 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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No, I honestly never think like that. These are great little cars. However, they are just a "thing" and it should be enjoyed. I always loved making my toys the best they can be but what good are they if you can't enjoy them. Learn you car and the sounds. If there is something weird check it out. Don't let it stop you from enjoying it though.
I know some people have cars just to keep as art or something in their garage. I personally can't do that and it would drive me nuts to have a cool, fun car I couldn't hop in a rip it in. |
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| Tom_T |
May 6 2010, 02:00 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ May 5 2010, 06:04 PM) ok, over the past 6 years, I've done damn near everything on my car... the transmission is probably the only part 'untouched' and even it got new seals and every linkage bushing... but now, when I drive it, I'm nit-picky, and every little thing seems to cause worry... example... yesterday it got up to the high 80s outside, and my car, in stop-go traffic got up to slightly less than 220 on the way home... and I started worrying of over heat... every rattle, noise, smell or anything a 40 year old car could have, worries me bonkers to the point the fun in the car is far upset by the paranoia... does anyone else get like this? Wayne - IIRC that 220 is about right for a hot day in traffic, since they run hotter than watercooled steel. After awhile you'll get used to what sounds right & not, then you'll only need to worry about the idiots that the others mentioned above! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .... something about folks not looking down for the little guys! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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