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Check those brake lines! |
biosurfer1 |
May 19 2010, 09:15 PM
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Teener fo Life! Group: Members Posts: 3,020 Joined: 3-August 03 From: Roseville, CA Member No.: 977 Region Association: Northern California |
Especially the rubber ones!! I am in the process of changing out the front inserts and was going to do the rubber lines anyways, and boy am I glad I did.
Here is a picture of what it looked like in the car, not the best condition but certainly not too bad...or is it?? And as soon as I moved it just a bit, I noticed the real condition (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) The picture doesn't even show how bad it truly was, some of the cracks went all the way through...scary stuff. Just a reminder to check those lines, we are talking about brakes here and its not a system you don't want running at 100% |
PeeGreen 914 |
May 20 2010, 09:52 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yes, check them, but rather change them every three years. They are cheep and easy enough to do. Why not? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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SirAndy |
May 20 2010, 11:00 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,671 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
That's actually a perfect example why rubber lines are better for a street car!
You can actually SEE that they have damage. Try that with those SS lines ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Andy |
McMark |
May 20 2010, 11:21 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Rubber lines!
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jimkelly |
May 20 2010, 11:30 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
i just replaced mine - one had a buldged exterior and the other had a clogged ID.
if i can do it awake without any help - you can do it in your sleep. and get a motive bleeder to make bleeding a one man job. jim Attached thumbnail(s) |
biosurfer1 |
May 20 2010, 11:45 AM
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Teener fo Life! Group: Members Posts: 3,020 Joined: 3-August 03 From: Roseville, CA Member No.: 977 Region Association: Northern California |
I agree the motive bleeder makes life much easier.
The rear lines were more difficult just because more things got in the way of getting tools up there, but they are do-able and should be done regularly too. |
Root_Werks |
May 20 2010, 12:42 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,331 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I've noticed over the years on many cars the lines that get engine oil on them tend to not last as long.
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charliew |
May 20 2010, 12:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
This reminds me of when I brought my 914 home on the trailer after I bought it. The po had done a brake job so he said. He had. After I unloaded it my son and I took it through the neighborhood to see what all it needed. It had lots of valve noise and the steering wheel was really loose in it's bearing so the horn was honking on small bumps. Kinda funny to us. It had just been liscensed and inspected. About a 1/2 mile from the house I noticed the brakes were getting soft. My son said stop. We were already only going about 25 mph so it wasn't hard to stop. My son said he heard a funny noise and got out and was walking beside the car on the pass side and said there was a noise coming from the right rear. I let him drive and I listened and sure enough it was a clicking sound. I looked under the car in front of the rear wheel and the metal line was bubbing on the inside of the tire and was really hot. It already had a hole rubbed in it. It cooled pretty quick and I just finished breaking it in two and bent it sharply to kink it so it wouldn't keep leaking while we drove it home. I guess the po got the line too close to the tire and didn't drive it after he did the brake job. It did have brand new tires on it so maybe the new tires were wider? The po is a friend of a friend and we knew he wasn't a mechanic.
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kpfoten |
May 20 2010, 01:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 220 Joined: 15-April 08 From: Escanaba, MI Member No.: 8,927 Region Association: None |
Anyone have any hints for getting these things off? Just wondering--the last time I did a project like this was on an old LandCruiser FJ40 and they were STUCK. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
URY914 |
May 20 2010, 01:35 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,983 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I had a braided stainless steel line blow out on me years ago.
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EdwardBlume |
May 20 2010, 01:46 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
So the original brake lines should be replaced? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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biosurfer1 |
May 20 2010, 03:06 PM
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Teener fo Life! Group: Members Posts: 3,020 Joined: 3-August 03 From: Roseville, CA Member No.: 977 Region Association: Northern California |
Anyone have any hints for getting these things off? Just wondering--the last time I did a project like this was on an old LandCruiser FJ40 and they were STUCK. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Mine were pretty clean, however I doubt they were ever changed. I would suggest a little penetrating fluid overnight if you's are really stuck, otherwise all it took was a 14mm and 10mm wrench to get mine off and back on. The fronts took less than 15 minutes start to finish. |
jabberwocky |
May 20 2010, 08:32 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 40 Joined: 24-April 10 From: Cleveland OH Member No.: 11,653 Region Association: None |
New to this world what vendors are best for simple things like replacement break lines?
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BigDBass |
May 20 2010, 10:41 PM
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Dumb Question Champion Group: Members Posts: 1,438 Joined: 11-January 06 From: Chicago (south 'burbs) Member No.: 5,405 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
New to this world what vendors are best for simple things like replacement break lines? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Check out www.PMBPerformance.com for all your 914 brake (and many other) needs. You may end up needing brake pads, plenty of brake fluid for a flush, and may end up needing rebuilt calipers or caliper rebuild kits if none of that has been looked at for a long time. |
underthetire |
May 20 2010, 10:50 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
New to this world what vendors are best for simple things like replacement break lines? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Check out www.PMBPerformance.com for all your 914 brake (and many other) needs. You may end up needing brake pads, plenty of brake fluid for a flush, and may end up needing rebuilt calipers or caliper rebuild kits if none of that has been looked at for a long time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) but wait till tomorrow night to order, just in case he doesn't have enough stock. Gives me a chance to get my order in first (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Cap'n Krusty |
May 21 2010, 08:45 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Yes, check them, but rather change them every three years. They are cheep and easy enough to do. Why not? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) "Three years"? Why? Flush and replace the fluid every 2 years, using at least 1/2 liter per cylinder (that's 2.5L, total) and do a visual inspection. With proper servicing, the original type lines should be good for 15-20 years and up. The Cap'n |
PeeGreen 914 |
May 21 2010, 10:03 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yes, check them, but rather change them every three years. They are cheep and easy enough to do. Why not? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) "Three years"? Why? Flush and replace the fluid every 2 years, using at least 1/2 liter per cylinder (that's 2.5L, total) and do a visual inspection. With proper servicing, the original type lines should be good for 15-20 years and up. The Cap'n Because it is easy and cheep (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) . Why not? Sure they can last much longer but when they are the weak link in your barking system it doesn't hurt to change them out regularly. Oh, and I always use race quality braided lines. There is no reason not to use them if you service them regularly. |
DBCooper |
May 21 2010, 10:07 AM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
I agree with you about the braided lines [oh Lord, I can see Krusty's panties bunching right now and it's NOT a pretty sight!] but with Krusty about the intervals. Unless it's exposed to oil or sunlight there's no need to change a rubber line that often, and since braided teflon lines aren't susceptible to UV or oil there's even less need to change them. Change if you want, sure, but there's no need.
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