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post Aug 16 2004, 04:01 PM
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Can somebody explain this to me.

If someone on the list put their cooler inside the trunk, they would be flamed out the wazoo.

Found this pic in my 914 test report folio book. The car is Richie Ginther's production racecar that had factory backed support.

The text says they put the cooler in the trunk and that even in the hot CA climate, no problems with overheating. They were running a tweaked 2.0 -6.

These guys seem to know what they are doing, so what do they know that we don't?

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post Aug 16 2004, 04:03 PM
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whats on the backside of the cooler...A SHROUD?
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post Aug 16 2004, 04:08 PM
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A pic of the car with the famous windscreen named after him.

I don't think production rules allowed cutting openings in the sheetmetal.

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post Aug 16 2004, 04:12 PM
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so what do they know that we don't?


Where is the air flowing (from/ to) to dissipate the heat?
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post Aug 16 2004, 04:13 PM
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Zois used an oil cooler in the trunk of his 914 with a 6 cyl 3.0.... we called it the hot dog grill... a little different set up with a hole in the bottom of the trunk as I recall.... and a fan? He probably has a photo of it somewhere.

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post Aug 16 2004, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(Randal @ Aug 16 2004, 06:12 PM)
Where is the air flowing (from/ to) to dissipate the heat?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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post Aug 16 2004, 04:34 PM
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The factory cooler was *almost* adequate... adding another small cooler with NO air flow was probably fine for what they where doing.

Oh.. dont put much thought behind "factory backing". I have spent some time with factory "Junior Teams".. factory backing doesnt mean much.


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post Aug 16 2004, 04:47 PM
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Second cooler...only Brad would know!

I'd love to see ideas on how to put an oil cooler in the trunk and still have the installation look good.

I don't like oil coolers mounted on the top of the trunk, but how about two NASA ducts mounted on a fiberglass hood, for input, and the same on the bottom with one or two big fans pushing air out of the trunk.

Maybe the bottom doesn't have to be anything except a shroud that holds the fan.

Sure would be easier than all the effort to put a cooler up front.
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post Aug 16 2004, 06:37 PM
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Been thinking on this subject, and one clean way to do this would be to replace the sheet metal on the tail where the badging and trunk release go with mesh. There's your air exit (should be a low-pressure area, too). To get air, in, you could cut into the rear wheel well along the side, or duct in through the engine bay. Naca ducts on the valances below the doors, up and over the engine, and into the trunk, perhaps?

I'm wondering, in fact, if this arrangement could be used for a water cooling setup to free up the front trunk and simplify plumbing. Probably not on a Chevy, but maybe on a non-turbo Soob or some V6 swaps...
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post Aug 16 2004, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(lapuwali @ Aug 16 2004, 08:37 PM)
Been thinking on this subject, and one clean way to do this would be to replace the sheet metal on the tail where the badging and trunk release go with mesh.

You must be on the same wavelength as this guy.

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post Aug 16 2004, 07:43 PM
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I like the silver painted fiberglass bumper!
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post Aug 17 2004, 11:15 AM
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That orange 914 is Steve's at Auto Asets 914-GT car. Yes a real one!
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post Aug 17 2004, 11:20 AM
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Here is a link to Jon Lowes web pages of 914-GT's.

Southard's GT
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post Aug 17 2004, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Aug 16 2004, 02:01 PM)
what do they know that we don't?

they know that an SCCA sprint race is only about 30 minutes long...

it looks to me as if they've pulled the Nylon cups that the top clips would have fit in; that provides a way for -some- air to get in. can't see if they might have left the tail lights loose or provided another means for 'some' heated air to get out...
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post Aug 17 2004, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(ArtechnikA @ Aug 17 2004, 04:05 PM)
they know that an SCCA sprint race is only about 30 minutes long...

That's the kind of racing we do here with SCCA, we don't even run an alternator.

I am going to run dual inline coolers at the rear of the car but underneath the trunk.

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post Aug 17 2004, 09:07 PM
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Try an oil cooler in the front trunk


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post Aug 17 2004, 09:50 PM
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Where else can one mount a cooler if you want to run stock early bumpers?
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post Aug 17 2004, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(thomasotten @ Aug 17 2004, 11:50 PM)
Where else can one mount a cooler if you want to run stock early bumpers?

My issue is that we are restricted from cutting the sheetmetal.

I did like this install though. Keeps bumper unmolested but provides good airflow.

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post Aug 17 2004, 10:33 PM
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Another install that keeps the bumper whole...

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post Aug 18 2004, 06:29 AM
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Cool, just notch the SE air dam. What about just putting it in the fender? Has anyone done that?
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