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seanery
post Aug 18 2004, 01:34 PM
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:36 PM
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:37 PM
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Lotso stuff:

The hard lines to the injectors.

The pressure regulator, fuel filter that keeps about 12lbs circulating to the MFI pump.

The injectors (I don't see them)

I think you have the needed linkage?

I have worked with MFI many, many times over the years. A great system once it is up and running. Warning, this looks pretty well taken appart. You will need to measure things (linkage) when assembling things. If you need any help, you know where to post! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif)
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:53 PM
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Yea, A good coat of paint or stain on that deck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Aug 18 2004, 01:53 PM
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Proper air-filter with warm-up circuit might be another...
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:59 PM
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All of the above. Remember, the linkage oon the throttle bodies thamselves is set up on a flow bench, so piecing it together isn't as easy as it might seem. pumps that sit are usually in need of a rebuild, or a cleaning/calibration at the very least. Need the belt, the oil lines, the drive pulley for the pump, and the engine tin to go with it. Also the bell crank, cross bar, decel components, and throttle rods. The Cap'n
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post Aug 18 2004, 02:06 PM
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cogged Gilmer drive belt, electronic speed-sensor gizmo to operate the shutoff solenoid on overrun, and the linkage-actuated microswitch. i don't know that i see all the little ball/socket link rods...

the warm-up (thermostat) air comes off the left heat exchanger.

interesting - i don't think mine has that vacuum fitting on the rightside throttle body ...
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post Aug 18 2004, 02:08 PM
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What's the current "Pile-O-Parts" worth in your humble opinions?
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post Aug 18 2004, 02:11 PM
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I hate to say it but, as the Cap'n is eluding to; it may be worth more in parts at www.early911sregistry.com than it would be worth when you consider:

Piecing together parts
$1,600 pump rebuild
Issues with putting one in a teener bay
If it's a "T" MFI then you'll want the throttle bodies and stacks bored.
If they're plastic stacks then they will be a biotch to bore.

So... $1,600 for the pump. Another $1,500 to get the bodies and stacks up to snuff (ask me how I know...) You now have a very cool induction system that's a bit difficult to fit into your car (I know... it's been done before. Tell him how easy it is to time the pump.)

Although we just met... I have a deep love for you man. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) I'm just looking out for your wallet! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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post Aug 18 2004, 02:13 PM
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thanks man...I've always wanted an MFI car, was just thinking that it might be cool for the proposed E/S car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

New PMO's for the same price would to though! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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post Aug 18 2004, 02:17 PM
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I'm putting MFI on a 3.0 SC motor for my RS clone. They say "The Road is better than the Inn" We'll see about that... right now the "Road" has drained my bank account. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 18 2004, 02:19 PM
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"The Road is better than the Inn" We'll see about that... right now the "Road"
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splain this to me Lucy!
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post Aug 18 2004, 02:26 PM
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The journey... getting there is most of the fun... the road is better than the inn...

Meaning we all strive for the end but it's getting there that hold the meaning. Or... building a 3.0 MFI engine is more fun than having one already built?? (Well... that shoots that philosophy!!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 18 2004, 02:52 PM
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6 throttle rods
fuel hard lines
injectors
electric fuel pump and some rubber fuel line (easy)
fuel filter console and filter itself
The thing that goes on top of the engine, with the thermotime switch and the fittings to feed oil to the injection pump.
The little plate on which the pump is supported, with a little spacer to holp the plate up off the engine.
special heater boxes with the the fitting to get heat to the thermostat
special engine tin to pass the hot air from below to above
K&N rainshields - I was not able to get the regular airbox to fit, it's turned around in a 914 but then fouls the mechanical pump. (rainshields need to be slightly modified)
a bunch of electrical stuff: the overun shutoff solenoid and a couple of other things on the 911 MFI relay board.
The thermotime switch
You need to organize a custom engine wiring harness, but that's not too tough.
I can't see the idle micro-switch on the right hand side stack (as mounted on a 914)
pump belt
I can't see if you have the toothed wheels on which the belt rides, both at the pump and on the end of the camshaft.

Anyway, that's what I can think of now.

I don't think you need a flowbench to set up the stacks, if the shafts are tight. I did with a synchrometer.

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post Aug 18 2004, 02:52 PM
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thanks

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post Aug 18 2004, 03:43 PM
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well, IMHO, you are missing 6 Bosch electronic injectors, an electronic MAP, an air intake sensor and a TPS , oh yea and the ECU to control them all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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post Aug 18 2004, 03:54 PM
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I thought he was missing a pair of Webers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 18 2004, 04:11 PM
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Jake would say he has 2, too many inlets (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Aug 18 2004, 04:15 PM
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Sooooo . What are the alternatives to the MFI on Sean's engine? There are alternatives, right?

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