917 Side Exhuast, Never before seen |
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917 Side Exhuast, Never before seen |
bcheney |
Jul 27 2012, 05:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 16-November 03 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1,348 Region Association: South East States |
TC just posted this in another one of his threads....I have seen a lot of 917's in books, in person, under restoration and on the track. I have NEVER seen one with a side exhaust. Interesting picture...
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Gustl |
Jul 27 2012, 05:43 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,525 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
I just came across this eBay auction of a Hot Wheels Porsche 917 with a couple of pics
here you can see it too - on both sides Attached image(s) |
1970 Neun vierzehn |
Jul 27 2012, 07:01 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
configured for LeMans/1969...........
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Cupomeat |
Jul 27 2012, 07:13 AM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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maybe today is a lottery day... (heck I can't drool over women any more, so this will do...) |
JmuRiz |
Jul 27 2012, 07:43 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,434 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yep, my original 917 hotwheels is like that too...never seen that first picture though!
I'd love to make some cookie-cutter megaphone tips for my sport muffler. |
Cap'n Krusty |
Jul 27 2012, 08:12 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
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Dave_Darling |
Jul 27 2012, 10:11 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The early 917s had the front six cylinders exhaust in front of the rear wheels. The rear six cylinders exited out the back of the car. I don't remember the reason, but I do remember that there was some technical reason for it.
They later changed so that all of the exhaust went to the rear of the car, and found that it worked better. --DD |
carr914 |
Jul 27 2012, 10:25 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 119,021 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
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carr914 |
Jul 27 2012, 10:26 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 119,021 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
In this Guy's Case, the side exhausts might be Venting Out the Couch Farts
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Dave_Darling |
Jul 27 2012, 06:48 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The exhaust change was part of the changes made in between the 1969 and 1970 racing seasons, which tamed the handling of the 917 and produced the 917K. Ludvigsen says that the side-exit pipes dumped too much heat into the engine bay and the fuel system, so they were revised to join up with the pipes from the rear set of cylinders and exit out the rear of the car.
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Katmanken |
Jul 27 2012, 09:31 PM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I just came across this eBay auction of a Hot Wheels Porsche 917 with a couple of pics here you can see it too - on both sides Gustl, Hot Wheels re-released the 917 around Christmas and I picked up 5-6 of them. Pretty good replica of the short tail version of the prototype body. So far, one is painted white to look just like the 25 prototypes, and I plan on making a longtail for one. |
kerensky |
Jul 29 2012, 09:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 531 Joined: 1-February 06 From: Norman, OK Member No.: 5,508 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Just a guess, but I know drag racers are always big on equal length exhaust runners for headers - something about improving scavenging. The side exit was probably to try and get all the runners close to equal. Then they figured out that the bad outweighed the good and dumped it.
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carr914 |
Jul 30 2012, 03:49 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 119,021 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Here is a Pic Paul put up of a Ferrari (close to the same year of the 917). Go to something like the Equal Length
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