Is this a real GT?, Andy, Wolfgang, Jeroen...? |
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Is this a real GT?, Andy, Wolfgang, Jeroen...? |
JeffBowlsby |
Nov 19 2004, 10:43 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,548 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
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ws91420 |
Nov 19 2004, 10:47 PM
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Yes I have one a Lensley 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,063 Joined: 10-September 03 From: Ruther Glen,VA (halfway between sticks and civilization) Member No.: 1,137 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If I remember right the GT's had solid non-removeable roofs.
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Qarl |
Nov 19 2004, 10:49 PM
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Shriveled member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None |
No.. you're thinking of the 916
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John |
Nov 19 2004, 11:00 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
I am not sure anyone will be able to tell if it is a "real" GT or simply one that looks like GT (except with the 916 front shell) without the VIN and knowledge of which VIN's were actually "real" GT's.
From what I gather, it is an overpriced flared 914 that appears to come with a 3.2 RSR motor??? From what I have read, the GT's had a light weight, bolt on roof. The 916's were supposed to have a steel roof welded in place (that would take a lot of fun out of the car IMHO). You aren't actually thinking of bidding on that are you??? |
Bleyseng |
Nov 19 2004, 11:22 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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PORSCHE 914-6 GT easy building RSR MOTOR OFFER YET IS FORMED A UNIT MUST A 914-6 GT OF THAT BECOMING. COMPLETELY CAR BODY RESTORED WITHOUT ENDLACK. MORE EXTREMELY easy building AFTER GT SPECIFICATION REINFORCES. FOLLOWING PARTS EXISTENCE END of carbon aces: DOORS ALL THREE HOODS BUMPER AHEAD U. BEHIND ARMATURENBRETT(911) Floodlight cover between sheet metal -------------------------------------. LEICHTBAUANFERTIGUNG SPECIAL ROOF COMPLETE SPARE PARTS ARE NEW Z: B: WINGS SUSPENSION STRUTS (BEHIND ALU) cable trees WAAGEBALKENPEDALERIE SECHSPUNKTGURTE RENNSITZE USW...... MOTOR TOTALLY 3.2 LTR RSR, MECHANICAL INJECTION NEWLY CONSTRUCTED CA. 295 HP. SUITABLE TRANSMISSION. CAR CAN SEE BECOMING! Joke bidder BECOMING OF MEINEM LAWYER PURSUES AND IN THE BETRUGSFALL OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE INDICATED. Purchase sum MUST WITHIN 7 MAN-DAYS ON MEINEM ACCOUNT CREDITED BE. |
Jeroen |
Nov 19 2004, 11:23 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
I'm no GT expert but the only real GT-anything in the ad appear to be the price (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
After all, if you were restoring a real GT, would you use a carbon fiber 911 style dash? Or anything carbon fiber for that matter? Or a 916 front bumper? Or anything but an original engine/tranny? Don't think so... What about the claim he has aluminium rear trailing arms? There's absolutely nothing in this ad that even remotely points to the fact this car is a real GT So I seriously doubt it... I think he should be very happy if het gets €30K If the chassis is at least an original 6 and depending on who build the engine and exact engine/tranny specs |
Jeroen |
Nov 19 2004, 11:32 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Geoff, nice try (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Here's a better version: PORSCHE 914-6 GT LIGHTWEIGHT RSR MOTOR Offering a 914-6 GT that needs to be finished. Completly restorated body, needs final paint. Extreme lightweight build, reinforced to GT specs. Next parts are made of carbon fiber: Doors All 3 hoods Bumpers fr+rr Dash (911 style) Headlight covers ZWISCHENBLECH (no idea what he means by that) ------------------------------------- Special lightweight roof Complete replacement parts are new: Suspension arms, struts (rear aluminium), wiring loom, double master cilinder pedal cluster 6 point harness, racing seats, etc. Engine completly rebuild. 3.2 RSR mechanical injection, about 295 bhp Fitting gearbox It's possible to go see the car. Fun bidders will be dealt with by my attorny Scammers will be prosecuted by the DA Winning bid must be transfered to my bank account within 7 days |
redshift |
Nov 19 2004, 11:48 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
QUOTE(Jeroen @ Nov 20 2004, 01:32 AM) ZWISCHENBLECH (no idea what he means by that) ZWISCHENBLECH ZWIS, Expensive.. CHEN, expletive verb; previously rusty, at once rust beyond all comprehension, the time after rusted beyond belief.. BLECH, puke, to puke... M |
Jeroen |
Nov 19 2004, 11:54 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Zwischenblech is litterally a piece of sheetmetal that goes between sumptin
But the big Q is... between what? |
redshift |
Nov 19 2004, 11:59 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
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MarkV |
Nov 20 2004, 12:39 AM
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Fear the Jack Stands Group: Members Posts: 1,493 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson, AZ Member No.: 154 Region Association: None |
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Gustl |
Nov 20 2004, 02:34 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,531 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
I expressed my first thoughts to this offer at an other thread a couple of hours before (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)
for this price, you could by the last factory GT at AA btw - QUOTE The 916's were supposed to have a steel roof welded in place (that would take a lot of fun out of the car IMHO). could anyone explain the meaning of IMHO? I've seen it here several times, not knowing it's meaning ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I'll aks the seller for the VIN - if I get an answer I'll post it here ... Gustl |
redshift |
Nov 20 2004, 02:36 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
In My Humble Opinion... I never use it, I have no humble opinion.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Darn! I am just not getting any sleep. M |
ChrisReale |
Nov 20 2004, 03:16 AM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
QUOTE(redshift @ Nov 20 2004, 12:36 AM) Darn! I am just not getting any sleep. M Maybe the coffee in the IV drip bag has something to do with this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
davep |
Nov 20 2004, 07:00 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,157 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Need to know the VIN, and any racing history. There were a lot of cars converted to GT's privately. A lot of them we don't know the VIN, but the racing history would help a lot. For that kind of price one would expect a fully documented history. I'd like to follow up on this for sure.
From what I can see, it does look legit. That is the reinforced roof. Hardly ever get to see photos of it in that position. More detail photos would help. It does look that it was an original six, but with all the work done to it anything is possible. |
michel richard |
Nov 20 2004, 07:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,291 Joined: 22-July 03 From: Longueuil, Québec Member No.: 936 |
My undrstanding, although others are sure to know much better, is that the 914/6 GT had the fiberglass roof with some sort of steel reinforcement and fixtures that allowed the roof to be bolted to the frame at the four corners. As such, it would hav been removable, but only with the use of a wrench.
The 916, on the other hand, had a steel roof welded to the frame. From the outside, there was no break in the steel or the paint between the windshield frame and the steel painted roof. My .02 Michel Richard 914 2.2E MFI |
davep |
Nov 20 2004, 07:06 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,157 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Perfectly correct Michel.
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Bleyseng |
Nov 20 2004, 08:55 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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mskala |
Nov 20 2004, 11:49 AM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
That does not look like a GT roof. The GT roof looked
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Eric_Shea |
Nov 20 2004, 12:40 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,279 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I agree... GT's had cross-braced roofs as in the picture above.
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