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Michigan Hell Hole repair, Need a referral |
Jgreen |
Sep 27 2013, 12:38 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-September 13 From: Michigan Member No.: 16,443 Region Association: None |
Good afternoon all,
I've got my father's 914, a 2.0 from 1975. Even though it's never seen a winter, I have a pretty good hell hole going. It's to the point where if you lift the passenger side from the jack point, the door gap begins to widen. Interstingly, the jack point seems good. Anyway, is there anyone in the Detroit area you can recommend to fix this? I'm not looking for perfection - assume I've got a wife that hates the car and would be verry upset if I sank some big money into this (I know, a relative term - let's say more than $3,000.00.) I'll try to post a pic of the hole. Thanks for the input! Jon G. |
jimkelly |
Sep 27 2013, 01:13 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
keep in mind that the hell hole is probably not the only thing the car needs.
if spending the money will cause problems at home, you may want to just keep it in the garage, out of the elements for the time being. wife's happiness comes first. brad in indiana - http://www.914ltd.com/ jim |
Jgreen |
Sep 27 2013, 02:36 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-September 13 From: Michigan Member No.: 16,443 Region Association: None |
keep in mind that the hell hole is probably not the only thing the car needs. if spending the money will cause problems at home, you may want to just keep it in the garage, out of the elements for the time being. wife's happiness comes first. brad in indiana - http://www.914ltd.com/ jim I'm lucky here, I know the fully history of the car (It's been in the family since new). Everything works. Even the clock. The car runs and stops just fine (one exception - I need an oil cooler, the seals went bad, it's either plugged or gunked up inside or outisde in the shroud area. But until I stop the car becuase of the oil issue or overheating, it runs like a champ. |
jimkelly |
Sep 27 2013, 02:47 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
that is an urgent maintenance item - over heating. there could already be some costly repairs needed due to this.
brad - or other - could probably handle that while engine is out for hell hole repair. might want to talk to the wife to see how you will split your possessions when she finds out you spent $5k vs $2-3k and leaves you. get us a pic of under the battery tray and of the long under the rear end of the rocker cover. |
Harpo |
Sep 27 2013, 02:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,304 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Motor City aka Detroit Member No.: 13,469 Region Association: None |
I also recommend Brad. I trailered my car down from Metro Detroit and he replaced the rear floor pan, inner fire wall, outer fire wall and battery tray. Where in Michigan are you?
David |
Jgreen |
Sep 27 2013, 03:09 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-September 13 From: Michigan Member No.: 16,443 Region Association: None |
I also recommend Brad. I trailered my car down from Metro Detroit and he replaced the rear floor pan, inner fire wall, outer fire wall and battery tray. Where in Michigan are you? David I'm in the Bloomfield Hills area. Here's a pic that shows what it looks like from underneath. From the top, under the batter tray, and all the way to the fire wall, there is no rust. I don't have pics of that. Attached thumbnail(s) |
Jgreen |
Sep 27 2013, 03:10 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-September 13 From: Michigan Member No.: 16,443 Region Association: None |
I also recommend Brad. I trailered my car down from Metro Detroit and he replaced the rear floor pan, inner fire wall, outer fire wall and battery tray. Where in Michigan are you? David I'm in the Bloomfield Hills area. Here's a pic that shows what it looks like from underneath. From the top, under the batter tray, and all the way to the fire wall, there is no rust. I don't have pics of that. Here's another pic Attached thumbnail(s) |
Jgreen |
Sep 27 2013, 03:12 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-September 13 From: Michigan Member No.: 16,443 Region Association: None |
And some more pics. This one looks pretty good.
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Jgreen |
Sep 27 2013, 03:14 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-September 13 From: Michigan Member No.: 16,443 Region Association: None |
Last pic for now...
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Ferg |
Sep 27 2013, 03:18 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Sorry but based on those, you are looking at rear floors, and likely lower rear firewall as well at a minimum.
Before you dive in, you really need to access the rest of the chassis before you make $ decisions. You are well beyond the 3k point from what I can see to do it correctly. |
jimkelly |
Sep 27 2013, 03:32 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I agree and don't go under that car.
pls give us pics of the entire car when you have some time. though it is looking more and more like you need a rust free roller to move your parts over to. then you'll find you need suspension and brake parts. |
Jgreen |
Sep 27 2013, 03:48 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-September 13 From: Michigan Member No.: 16,443 Region Association: None |
I agree and don't go under that car. pls give us pics of the entire car when you have some time. though it is looking more and more like you need a rust free roller to move your parts over to. then you'll find you need suspension and brake parts. Here are a few more of the area in and around the HH. Attached thumbnail(s) |
Jgreen |
Sep 27 2013, 03:49 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-September 13 From: Michigan Member No.: 16,443 Region Association: None |
I agree and don't go under that car. pls give us pics of the entire car when you have some time. though it is looking more and more like you need a rust free roller to move your parts over to. then you'll find you need suspension and brake parts. Here are a few more of the area in and around the HH. Attached thumbnail(s) |
cwpeden |
Sep 27 2013, 03:57 PM
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Great White North, huh? Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-August 06 From: Victoria BC Member No.: 6,693 Region Association: Canada |
PS: this is the hell hole we speak of.. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914...fore-after.html
See pics in link |
Harpo |
Sep 27 2013, 06:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,304 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Motor City aka Detroit Member No.: 13,469 Region Association: None |
I would like to introduce you to Restoration DEsign
http://www.restoration-design.com/mm5/merc...tegory_Code=914 |
Jgreen |
Sep 27 2013, 06:49 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-September 13 From: Michigan Member No.: 16,443 Region Association: None |
I would like to introduce you to Restoration DEsign http://www.restoration-design.com/mm5/merc...tegory_Code=914 It's funny, parts are easier to get now than ever. I can remember in the early 1980's ordering the little plastic piece that holds the visor the one on the far left passenger side, from the dealer. after a few weeks, the wrong part arrived. A few weeks later, the right part came in, the wrong color. A few weeks later, they sent us the first piece again. The problem now is no one even knows what a 914 is! |
Jgreen |
Sep 27 2013, 06:53 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-September 13 From: Michigan Member No.: 16,443 Region Association: None |
Here's a few more pics. It's dusty, but imagine it clean.
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Jgreen |
Sep 27 2013, 06:55 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 27-September 13 From: Michigan Member No.: 16,443 Region Association: None |
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snakemain |
Sep 27 2013, 07:07 PM
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Ronin Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 14-January 10 From: Aviano, Italy Member No.: 11,232 Region Association: None |
Brad's in East Peoria, IL.
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mr914 |
Sep 27 2013, 07:10 PM
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914 Hillbilly Group: Members Posts: 576 Joined: 11-January 03 From: Lincoln NE Member No.: 131 Region Association: None |
Have you probed around the rust area to see if the undercoating is holding more rusted area.
I'm in the Clarkston area and recently finished the metal repair . Mine didn't look quite as bad to start, then with removing undercoat/sound deadeners it got much worse. If you needs hand evaluating, there are several of us in the Detroit area that can help I've got a feeling the more we look/dig the more we will find How are the door gaps and jack spurs? |
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