 Turbo Tie Rods, Any body got these? |
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| Carlitos Way |
 Dec 27 2004, 04:31 PM
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I did it MY WAY  Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California  |
Lots of talk about turbo tie rods in the past, so I'm thinking about getting some. These seem like a good price to me...
Turbo Tie Rods on ebay QUestion is... how hard are they to install? and if I get them... what improvements can I expect? |
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 27 2004, 04:40 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
real turbo tierods cost more (lemforder) and are better quality......
lemforder all the way (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) not auch du lieber others have bad experiences....etc |
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| Carlitos Way |
Dec 27 2004, 04:47 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
So.. what's the "right" source for getting the proper ones... and how hard are they to install?
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 27 2004, 04:49 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
either will work,
its up to you...the ebay ones seem to have crappy boots on them..... i sourced lemforders from Pelican. I believe the ecomm site will be selling them too (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 27 2004, 04:50 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
as to the install.....not that bad.
i bought the special SLIM wrench and that made it easier.... hardest part is getting the old ones off, and getting the new boots seated correctly (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) |
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| eeyore |
Dec 27 2004, 04:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: 8-January 04 From: meridian, id Member No.: 1,533 Region Association: None |
Pelican, Paragon, GPR. The 'right' ones will have a big fat washer. Because either the 914 rack is too narrow, or the threaded shaft of a TT rod is longer than the socket on the 914 rack. I think. |
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 27 2004, 04:57 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
good point! the Fatty washer is so you dont over extend the rack IIRC, they are "rack stops" if you will, meaning they hit the case of the rack before you "over extend the rack" .... |
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| 7391420 |
Dec 27 2004, 04:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 6-August 03 From: boston, ma Member No.: 988 |
I did this over the summer, got the tie rods from GPR, they were the cheapest. I agree, the Lemforder's are high quality. Getting the old ones off is a pain, the tie rod removal tool makes it much easier.
BTW, you feel a huge difference with these tie rods. the car definitly feels much more connected to the road, but it also seemed really darty to me at first, and took a while to get used to...so you may want to drive someone's car who has'em before you go ahead with it... -adam |
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 27 2004, 04:59 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) you will LOVE them! NEW balljoints give you a great feel too....
dont forget! get an alignment after you are done!!!! to minimize tire wear on the way to the alignment place, set your new tie rods to the same length as the ones you took off (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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| Mueller |
Dec 27 2004, 05:05 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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make sure you don't already have them...it's a common upgrade.....
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| Trekkor |
Dec 27 2004, 05:11 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I got mine and had them installed at High Performance House. They are good to me!
These rods are amazing, really wakes up the steering input. Absolutley worth doing just for the fact alone that what you have now are pushing 30 years old. The upgrade is wonderful. You can, as mentioned before, get a much crisper feel of the road and car. I also got rack spacers and a competiton negative camber alignment as well (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) ( street legal race car ). KT |
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| Carlitos Way |
Dec 27 2004, 05:11 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
How can I tell if mine are... or aren't Turbo Tie Rods? |
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| Trekkor |
Dec 27 2004, 05:15 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Look on page 104 of the Haynes Manual. TTR's have a ball socket instead of the "fork type joint" part #9 in the exploded diagram. KT |
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| Mueller |
Dec 27 2004, 05:20 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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are you just buying cr@p 'cause you think you need it or you see it for sale??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
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| Trekkor |
Dec 27 2004, 05:27 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
IMO, if you don't have 'em, you need 'em. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif)
KT |
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 27 2004, 05:27 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
ok mister crankfire EFI guy (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| eeyore |
Dec 27 2004, 05:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: 8-January 04 From: meridian, id Member No.: 1,533 Region Association: None |
Oooooooooppppppssssssssssss.... I thought the washers were only spacers, so I turned mine down so I could use a crescent wrench because I didn't have a thin 30-something-mm wrench to install them. Oh well. I shouldn't get to full-lock on the open road. Much. |
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| Mueller |
Dec 27 2004, 05:34 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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you got me there (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) there is a differance between buying stuff you "want" and "need".....I just see some people buying stuff just 'cause they read that someone else has it.....yes, the turbo tie rods are an improvement, but if on a budget there are other places to spend your money on if you don't need them.... |
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| anthony |
Dec 27 2004, 07:37 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218  |
I'd install TT rods if I was doing other suspension work but I wouldn't do them all by themselves. Too much work for not a lot of payoff. Sure they make things tigher and more responsive but do they make the car faster?
I also wonder if anyone has ever compared new regular tie rods to turbo tie rods. All the comparisons I've heard about are old, worn out regular tie rods versus brand new turbo tie rods. |
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| eeyore |
Dec 27 2004, 07:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: 8-January 04 From: meridian, id Member No.: 1,533 Region Association: None |
I believe turbo tie rods are good for 15 mph on top, 5 seconds at autocross, 3 extra MPG, and made my jokes 10x funnier at the Christmas parties.
Please don't burst my bubble. |
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