 At what point do you stop takeing things apart?, Want to get it back on the road but also want to do total restoration. |
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| offwatch |
 Jan 8 2014, 12:57 AM
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Had two day of fun days of driving the 914 after I bought it last Fall. Wanted to replace the interior which was totally gone and a few other projects and get it back on the road by early Spring.
I have pulled the seats, carpeting, door panels, and dash to have replaced or redone. I have also pulled the fuel tank, and all the air duct and vent parts out so the cockpit is down to sheet metal. Last night I was pulling the old brittle lower gasket to the windshield out when the windshield decided to crack. So now I have the windshield out. I had planned to just replace the interior and have fun with it this Spring and Summer then do a total disassembly down to the sheet metal and have it repainted next Fall and Winter. After getting this far I am torn between keep going and strip every thing else off and start prepping it for a total paint job or start going back together so I can have some fun with it this Spring and Summer then do the paint next Fall. |
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| gifted914 |
Jan 8 2014, 02:04 AM
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middleagecrisis Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 17-April 13 From: Australia / Brisbane Member No.: 15,778 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
QUOTE(offwatch @ Jan 8 2014, 04:57 PM)  Had two day of fun days of driving the 914 after I bought it last Fall. Wanted to replace the interior which was totally gone and a few other projects and get it back on the road by early Spring. I have pulled the seats, carpeting, door panels, and dash to have replaced or redone. I have also pulled the fuel tank, and all the air duct and vent parts out so the cockpit is down to sheet metal. Last night I was pulling the old brittle lower gasket to the windshield out when the windshield decided to crack. So now I have the windshield out. I had planned to just replace the interior and have fun with it this Spring and Summer then do a total disassembly down to the sheet metal and have it repainted next Fall and Winter. After getting this far I am torn between keep going and strip every thing else off and start prepping it for a total paint job or start going back together so I can have some fun with it this Spring and Summer then do the paint next Fall. At this point you will join with many of us and "DO THE STRIP" and "DO THE STRIP" The 914 I mean or do I. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| billh1963 |
Jan 8 2014, 06:24 AM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
So many restoration projects wind up being sold on this forum for pennies on the dollar after the well intentioned owner strips the car then loses interest, runs out of money, etc.
If the car is safe to drive and does not have serious structural issues, choose one thing to work on at a time and keep it on the road. For example, redo the seats and carpet, then redo the brakes, rebuild the suspension, etc. In other words, do a project that can be done with minimal downtime and then drive the car for a while until you do the next project. That way you can enjoy the car and keep the interest alive! |
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| cary |
Jan 8 2014, 07:19 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Best solution, if you have the space.
Two cars ........... One driving. One restoring. |
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| rick 918-S |
Jan 8 2014, 07:39 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,473 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region 
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Once the glass is I would keep going. Once the glass is back in you would not want to pull it again.
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| JStroud |
Jan 8 2014, 09:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,463 Joined: 15-January 11 From: Galt, California Member No.: 12,594 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(cary @ Jan 8 2014, 05:19 AM) Best solution, if you have the space. Two cars ........... One driving. One restoring. I tried that, got one running, bought a project and was going to work on the project while I drove the runner, but then I just kept improving the driver to make it nicer to drive and the projects is still sitting, now the driver is down for a -6 conversion. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) So yesterday I bought another driver.....problem solved right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) Point is there is no right answer, what ever you do....you'll always think maybe I should have gone the other way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Do what feels right for now...have fun with it or what's the point. Jeff |
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| CptTripps |
Jan 8 2014, 09:38 AM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
It all depends. For ME....I needed to drive it for a few weeks at least, so I can get an idea for what the car needs. This process will also get your blood flowing, as you know what it feels like to drive the car.
Just like anything else...whatever you have the appetite for. My last one, I did the body, and interior. Left the engine bay alone, and the front trunk for the most part. This time...ALL the way down to a naked tub, then I'll re-build everything piece by piece. Way easier if you have every part cleaned and laid out. I'll bet there are guys here that could build an entire 914 in less than a week with everything marked and ready to install. |
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| jeff |
Jan 8 2014, 09:58 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 252 Joined: 17-January 04 From: thousand oaks,ca Member No.: 1,570 |
+1
If the car is safe to drive and does not have serious structural issues, choose one thing to work on at a time and keep it on the road. For example, redo the seats and carpet, then redo the brakes, rebuild the suspension, etc. In other words, do a project that can be done with minimal downtime and then drive the car for a while until you do the next project. That way you can enjoy the car and keep the interest alive! |
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| boxsterfan |
Jan 8 2014, 11:26 AM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
Please beware!!! Jack stands are like crack cocaine for 914's.
Keep your 914 jack stand free. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
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| ClayPerrine |
Jan 8 2014, 12:54 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,502 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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Sounds like you caught a bad case of Dirk Wright's Disease.
I caught it and ended up stripping the car to a bare chassis. Got it put back together and can drive it again, but it was off the road for 5 years.' Good luck! |
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| Chris H. |
Jan 8 2014, 01:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,031 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Dang it Clay you beat me to it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Someone else will tell the tale...just did a search on the topic and got a little ferclemped.... Goes back to 2003, although the legend is a lot older. Sure miss some of those ole' boys. |
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| ClayPerrine |
Jan 8 2014, 02:30 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,502 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Jan 8 2014, 01:47 PM) Dang it Clay you beat me to it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Someone else will tell the tale...just did a search on the topic and got a little ferclemped.... Goes back to 2003, although the legend is a lot older. Sure miss some of those ole' boys. Not a legend. Dirk Wright really existed in the pre-Rennlist days on Porschelist. Search for Dirk Wright on this forum for the whole story. |
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| Eric_Shea |
Jan 8 2014, 02:31 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE So yesterday I bought another driver.....problem solved right. Where's the fuel pump? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| worn |
Jan 8 2014, 02:36 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,156 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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I had my TR6 body stored in two pieces for 2 years while I finished the frame and motor and it was 6 years before the maiden voyage. 6 long years. Skip some things.
I am trying to keep that in mind with the 6 build, but it will be 4-5 realistically. I plated my own parts etc. Never ends. Never clean enough or smooth enough. |
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| worn |
Jan 8 2014, 02:39 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,156 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(offwatch @ Jan 7 2014, 10:57 PM) Had two day of fun days of driving the 914 after I bought it last Fall. Wanted to replace the interior which was totally gone and a few other projects and get it back on the road by early Spring. I have pulled the seats, carpeting, door panels, and dash to have replaced or redone. I have also pulled the fuel tank, and all the air duct and vent parts out so the cockpit is down to sheet metal. Last night I was pulling the old brittle lower gasket to the windshield out when the windshield decided to crack. So now I have the windshield out. I had planned to just replace the interior and have fun with it this Spring and Summer then do a total disassembly down to the sheet metal and have it repainted next Fall and Winter. After getting this far I am torn between keep going and strip every thing else off and start prepping it for a total paint job or start going back together so I can have some fun with it this Spring and Summer then do the paint next Fall. Are there rust holes all over? If there are not, run away from taking it apart. Big holes are harder to think about. I am happily driving one car with holes while I replace panels in the other. |
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| damesandhotrods |
Jan 8 2014, 04:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 568 Joined: 26-September 10 From: Santa Cruz California Member No.: 12,218 Region Association: Northern California |
You’re not into it that deep yet. As long as it’s structurally sound, and mechanically sound, finish the repairs and do the restoration later. Drive and enjoy it a little. You’re only looking at saving a few of hours of work, if you go to disassemble it again. Plus it should come apart easier and faster the second time around.
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| rhodyguy |
Jan 8 2014, 06:47 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,084 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
the taking it apart and putting it back together business ends right before you decide to sell it.
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| JStroud |
Jan 8 2014, 07:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,463 Joined: 15-January 11 From: Galt, California Member No.: 12,594 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jan 8 2014, 12:31 PM) QUOTE So yesterday I bought another driver.....problem solved right. Where's the fuel pump? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) I don't know.....guess I'll find out Saturday..why is there a problem. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| Chris Pincetich |
Jan 8 2014, 08:12 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
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Rick knows. The windshield is a bitch. Of course, doing a new windshield now MAY improve your chances of not breaking it or cracking it next time it is removed for a proper paint job vs. messing w the (presumed) 40 y.o. original. Some paint jobs don't remove the windshield.... The decision kinda depends on how much prep is needed before paint. Some folks spend months or years on fixing rust and dents. If the body is in good shape and you don't want a bare-metal restoration paint job, I vote for more work now to get it all stripped for paint, then host a re-assemble party BBQ this summer or fall and it will be put back together in no time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Myself, I have followed the "keep it on the road" plan and am tackling rustoration piece-meal. I also lack a proper garage (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Have fun! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| offwatch |
Jan 8 2014, 10:57 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 4-December 13 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 16,725 Region Association: None |
Fortunately most of the big stuff has already been done on the 914. I bought the car from my Son who owned it for the last 5 years (I think he is a member on this site). He had just finished rebuilding the engine and his first car projects were to replace the floor under the seats and a little bit of fab and repair in the hell hole area. This was his daily driver through high school and first couple of years of college.
Cosmetics, the paint and interior are the last big things that need to get repaired. After fighting the windshield, unless there is a way that I can install the windshield that would be easy to uninstall next Fall I am probably leaning more toward going for the total strip down now. I just want to be able to get it back together by Summer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Yah I know things always take twice as long as you think. |
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