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| stinkindiesel |
 May 8 2014, 02:04 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 14-June 13 From: Georgetown, TX Member No.: 16,012 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
I've been lurking for a while, but haven't really been able to contribute much. I figure it's time to get busy. I dragged home a 1973 1.7L early last summer, and have been slowly trying to figure out what I have.
Car started life in Hobbs, NM and Odessa,TX, so its been in dry hot climates most of its life. Just a few rusty areas in the hell hole (of course), right front rocker and fender. Still looks presentable. Some time in the mid 80's it got painted a rather interesting blue/green color, and was later repainted white. I managed to get it started before I bought it, but PO claimed the alternator was bad. It seemed to run OK, but wouldn't idle. Looking at the state of the vacuum lines I'm not surprised. After poking around some last weekend, I suspect the voltage regulator may be an issue rather than the alternator. Right now I'm torn between just pulling the engine and transmission to start clean vs. just trying to get it running first. Part of me says it might be easier to start clean. I already have the special 914-option jack stands under her, so she would fit in around here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)     So a couple of questions just to get things started. 1) This is obviously a non-appearance group car, but would the targa top and sail panels originally have had vinyl or not? 2) What kind of options are there for air filters with the stock 1.7L air cleaner housing? 3) If I do need a voltage regulator, should I go with something functionally equivalent or hold out for a stock look? 4) I'll be sticking with the stock D-Jet, but no idea what to do if it needs points/ignition help. Thanks all for giving me the incentive to move ahead on this project. Gary |
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| Moneypit |
May 8 2014, 02:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 4-January 06 From: Georgetown, TX Member No.: 5,360 Region Association: Southwest Region |
!!! Where in Georgetown! We are staying with wife's folks off Booty's road near the dam, and will be living over off 29 and Inner Loop! If I'm available I'd be willing to make myself available if you ever need extra hands! Unfortunately I never had a 914 with the FI intact, so sadly I'm not much use in that department. I've done the shift bushings enough times though, and at least 2 drivetrain drops so I can help there.
We need to get an Austin 914 Mafia going, complete with a subforum and secret handshake. Oh, and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| saigon71 |
May 8 2014, 02:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,000 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Dillsburg, PA Member No.: 10,428 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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Your car looks like a decent starting point - which puts you miles ahead of some of us already! I would get the engine running well before pulling it out. This way, you will know what you have before reinstalling it. Good luck & keep us posted! |
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| zymurgist |
May 8 2014, 02:30 PM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
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White 914s are classy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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| 76-914 |
May 8 2014, 02:32 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,509 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(stinkindiesel @ May 8 2014, 01:04 PM)  I've been lurking for a while, but haven't really been able to contribute much. I figure it's time to get busy. I dragged home a 1973 1.7L early last summer, and have been slowly trying to figure out what I have. Car started life in Hobbs, NM and Odessa,TX, so its been in dry hot climates most of its life. Just a few rusty areas in the hell hole (of course), right front rocker and fender. Still looks presentable. Some time in the mid 80's it got painted a rather interesting blue/green color, and was later repainted white. I managed to get it started before I bought it, but PO claimed the alternator was bad. It seemed to run OK, but wouldn't idle. Looking at the state of the vacuum lines I'm not surprised. After poking around some last weekend, I suspect the voltage regulator may be an issue rather than the alternator. Right now I'm torn between just pulling the engine and transmission to start clean vs. just trying to get it running first. Part of me says it might be easier to start clean. I already have the special 914-option jack stands under her, so she would fit in around here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) So a couple of questions just to get things started. 1) This is obviously a non-appearance group car, but would the targa top and sail panels originally have had vinyl or not? 2) What kind of options are there for air filters with the stock 1.7L air cleaner housing? 3) If I do need a voltage regulator, should I go with something functionally equivalent or hold out for a stock look? 4) I'll be sticking with the stock D-Jet, but no idea what to do if it needs points/ignition help. Thanks all for giving me the incentive to move ahead on this project. Gary (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) 1, yes. 2, many but nothing that is going to improve the way it runs. 3, Look thru our member vendors. All are A-OK. 4, throw the points/cond in the trash and get a P-847V Petronix unit. Sits inside the dizzy where the points went. |
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| wes |
May 8 2014, 02:33 PM
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wes Group: Members Posts: 1,589 Joined: 8-December 07 From: Ukiah Ca Member No.: 8,436 Region Association: Northern California
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Hello good to see you have your jack stands ready, as the addiction grows on you the jack stands become a necessity, I have 2 sets one for my project and 1 for my parts car!
The car could have been ordered sail vinyl delete but more likely was deleted at the time of paint job. Have fun they are great fun little cars and there is no real replacement for a good 914! Happy trails. |
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| Bob L. |
May 8 2014, 05:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 848 Joined: 7-August 11 From: Austin TX Member No.: 13,411 Region Association: Southwest Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) I'm down in south Austin (way south) but might be available sometimes to help out. I have worked my way through lots of stuff on my 2.0 with FI. Of course I had lots of help from "The World". (Thanks again folks) |
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| pt_700 |
May 8 2014, 05:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 4-March 10 From: san jose, ca Member No.: 11,430 Region Association: Northern California
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get her running and enjoy her before diving into any major repairs that will take her out of commission, in my opinion.
carry a fire extinguisher, just in case. old brittle plastic fuel lines can leak. come to think of it, that might be one project worth undertaking sooner rather than later... that air filter housing looks like the plastic type that takes a paper filter. i recently purchased one to replace my oil bath and learned here that Autozone as STP AF103 is a suitable fit. mine's coming in the mail so i can't confirm that but, info here's a close to gospel as one can get on the www! |
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| Larmo63 |
May 8 2014, 06:05 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Your air box looks like it needs to be rotated. If you take the air box off completely, you can see how it indexes on the stand. Then the arrows on the top correspond to the side metal clips. I just bought an airfilter on eBay #AF-103. Auto Atlanta has them. And, I like the cars much better without the sail vinyl, but that is personal preference. I just did points/condenser on mine, but the Pertronix sounds like a better option....? Having mine running made all the difference in the world, I could really get a feel for the car and what I want to do with it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
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| Sfreeman615 |
May 8 2014, 08:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 146 Joined: 23-February 14 From: Nashville,TN Member No.: 17,033 Region Association: South East States |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) I wish my car would've been in your condition when I started!
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| Larmo63 |
May 8 2014, 09:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Airbox sits like this......
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| rick 918-S |
May 8 2014, 09:30 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,493 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region
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Nice start! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
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| ruby914 |
May 8 2014, 10:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 26-April 09 From: Hawthorne, Ca Member No.: 10,305 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Nice car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| PanelBilly |
May 8 2014, 10:45 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,817 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Welcome. nice looking car.... pull it all apart and start a 12 year project
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| Tom |
May 8 2014, 10:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,139 Joined: 21-August 05 From: Port Orchard, WA 98367 Member No.: 4,626 Region Association: None |
That is a nice looking car. I would drop the engine and trans and clean everything up. Then replace the vacuum lines and fuel lines and tune it up. Replace any bad wiring while it is out also. When you reinstall it, you should have an easy time of fine tuning, then drive it.
If you decide to leave the engine in, at least replace the vacuum and fuel lines. Check out the engine and injection harness and replace wiring as needed. Tom |
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| ConeDodger |
May 8 2014, 10:59 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,614 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) you can almost hear it rusting... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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| KELTY360 |
May 8 2014, 11:08 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,036 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Sail vinyl was part of the appearance group along with chrome bumpers and fog lights. So it probably never had it. Looks good without IMO. It's worth it getting your FI sorted out. BTW, the jack stands were not an option.....standard equipment. |
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| sportlicherFahrer |
May 9 2014, 12:26 AM
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Nothing to see here. Group: Members Posts: 1,088 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Tacoma, WA Member No.: 3,945 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Here is an EXCELLENT resource for helping sort out the FI. I check it out every time mine leaves me scratching my head before I search or post any questions.
D-Jet Troubleshooting and of course (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| stinkindiesel |
May 9 2014, 12:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 14-June 13 From: Georgetown, TX Member No.: 16,012 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Moneypit,
I'm in Old Town just a block south of Southwestern University. Not sure about the "secret handshake," but we should definitely get together. Remember, the first rule of the Austin Mafia is don't talk about the Austin Mafia. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) QUOTE(Moneypit @ May 8 2014, 03:18 PM) !!! Where in Georgetown! We are staying with wife's folks off Booty's road near the dam, and will be living over off 29 and Inner Loop! If I'm available I'd be willing to make myself available if you ever need extra hands! Unfortunately I never had a 914 with the FI intact, so sadly I'm not much use in that department. I've done the shift bushings enough times though, and at least 2 drivetrain drops so I can help there. We need to get an Austin 914 Mafia going, complete with a subforum and secret handshake. Oh, and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| stinkindiesel |
May 9 2014, 12:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 14-June 13 From: Georgetown, TX Member No.: 16,012 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Thanks all for the welcome.
I'm not new to Porsche, having had a 1969 911E and a 1983 944 back in the days BC (before children). When child #3 came along and the 911 needed a major rebuild, I let it go to a doctor down in San Antonio. I kept thinking I would replace it at some point, but I watched long hood prices go from reasonable to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) in the last couple of years while trying to find one locally. A friend of mine had a 1971 914 we used to autocross back in the 9184-1985 time frame, at least when we could keep it running and pass tech inspection (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I know they can be fun little cars. Only problem is now my 16 year old son thinks I'm going to fix it up for him to drive... |
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