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post May 12 2014, 08:12 PM
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In terms of cost, here’s a basic parts list from Renegade:

$8500 LS3 engine package 430hp (480hp $500 more)
$2600 914 LS basic kit
$2200 914 LS Boxster LS clutch and adapter upgrade
$250 Starter
$1200 Heavy Duty Axles
$595 Rear Trans mount
$750 Misc. Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Parts
$375 Boxster S shifter and cables
$3000 Good used Boxster S transaxle
$175 Air Cleaner Kit
$180 Sport mount kit for trans
$120 Poly mounts for engine
$750 GPS speedometer upgrade (do I really need this??)
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post May 12 2014, 09:27 PM
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My parts list:
Cayman S 6 speed, shipped to my door $1000
Hydraulic clutch (Wilwood & Howe) $200
Heavy Duty Axles $230
Heavy Duty CV joints $1200
Magnetic hall speedo sensor $50
Boxster Shifter $60
Short shift kit $100
Cayman S shift cables (Porsche) $400
Passat Parts car $1000
Garret Turbo $800
Radiator, oil cooler & shroud $300
Misc parts $2000+
DOM tubing $400
Welding supplies $300

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QUOTE(partwerks @ May 12 2014, 07:12 PM) *

In terms of cost, here’s a basic parts list from Renegade:

$8500 LS3 engine package 430hp (480hp $500 more)
$2600 914 LS basic kit
$2200 914 LS Boxster LS clutch and adapter upgrade
$250 Starter
$1200 Heavy Duty Axles
$595 Rear Trans mount
$750 Misc. Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Parts
$375 Boxster S shifter and cables
$3000 Good used Boxster S transaxle
$175 Air Cleaner Kit
$180 Sport mount kit for trans
$120 Poly mounts for engine
$750 GPS speedometer upgrade (do I really need this??)

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post May 13 2014, 03:41 AM
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I'm would think some of this stuff could be gotten elsewhere for a better price., like the trans and engine?

Just would have to know what pieces of the puzzle I would need to purchase from them, and what not. Not sure on all of it. Some of it would probably be favorable to get from them.
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post May 13 2014, 06:13 AM
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QUOTE(partwerks @ May 12 2014, 10:12 PM) *

In terms of cost, here’s a basic parts list from Renegade:

$8500 LS3 engine package 430hp (480hp $500 more)
$2600 914 LS basic kit
$2200 914 LS Boxster LS clutch and adapter upgrade
$250 Starter
$1200 Heavy Duty Axles
$595 Rear Trans mount
$750 Misc. Hydraulic Clutch Conversion Parts
$375 Boxster S shifter and cables
$3000 Good used Boxster S transaxle
$175 Air Cleaner Kit
$180 Sport mount kit for trans
$120 Poly mounts for engine
$750 GPS speedometer upgrade (do I really need this??)



Total $20695 .....Damn

The LS3 engine is $6500 from GM shipped for the 430HP and $500 more for the hot cam 480 engine. The ECU and wiring harness from GM is $1100.

If you can't do it yourself I guess thats the price you have to pay.
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post May 13 2014, 06:22 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) that $21K seems pretty high. If you're looking for a monster though, that's one way to get it done!

Just a tip...from experience: Get the tub in order 100% before you buy ANYTHING. It's a TON easier to make sure that you're starting with something that'll hold up to the increased HP, than to buy a bunch of parts and then wonder if it'll all work out.

Just my .02
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post May 13 2014, 07:14 AM
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Holy Crap! I'll sell you one for $100!

I just use one of my old droid phones and a free app called "Torque".
It even logs GPS data and accelerations.
I use another spare droid phone as my garage entertainment unit :-)
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post May 13 2014, 10:07 PM
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Does the Boxster S trans have cable driven speedometer?
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post May 13 2014, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(partwerks @ May 13 2014, 09:07 PM) *

Does the Boxster S trans have cable driven speedometer?

No provision for speedo at all. I'm running a magnet ring and hall sensor.
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post May 14 2014, 04:33 AM
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QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ May 13 2014, 08:10 PM) *

QUOTE(partwerks @ May 13 2014, 09:07 PM) *

Does the Boxster S trans have cable driven speedometer?

No provision for speedo at all. I'm running a magnet ring and hall sensor.

I wonder if that is what I already have with the Tachometer, as there is a magnet on the axle?
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post May 14 2014, 06:01 AM
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Nothing against the kit manufacturers but IMHO this is the route I would take.
Cheapest solution- purchase a completed LS conversion.

Put a kit together- some estimates.
Motor- As Bigkat said- cheaper new from GM. Or just buy one off CL, or purchase a wrecked Camaro. 3000-5000$ Make sure you get the TB and Computer, exhaust manifolds, air filter. The Intake & TB gets mounted backwards with the air filter vented into the trunk as example.
Adapter and clutch @ 1000$ from KEP
Engine bar- 200$ from the kit guys
Transaxle relocating offsets- 20$ worth of metal, drilled.
Lengthen Shifter- 5$ in parts, DIY weld.
Plastic Overflow tank - 10$ Ebay
Aluminum expansion tank - 40$ Jegs/Summit/Dedenbear.
Electric Water Pump- 250$/Dedenbear
Toy-Jet water manifold (replace the water pump)- 250$
Yellow stripe hoses- 80$ NAPA
Radiator- 180$ - Ebay
Fans- 60$ Ebay
Hose transitions - 30$ from Jags that run.
High torque starter- 200$ Ebay
GPS Speedo- 170$- Speedhut

Do your research, read as many threads as you can, go look at some completed cars. troll the classifieds for conversion parts. Save some money! Have fun.
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post May 14 2014, 09:54 PM
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Some of the stuff I may be able to use from the WRX conversion already, but will keep this list handy.



Nothing against the kit manufacturers but IMHO this is the route I would take.
Cheapest solution- purchase a completed LS conversion.

Put a kit together- some estimates.
Motor- As Bigkat said- cheaper new from GM. Or just buy one off CL, or purchase a wrecked Camaro. 3000-5000$ Make sure you get the TB and Computer, exhaust manifolds, air filter. The Intake & TB gets mounted backwards with the air filter vented into the trunk as example.
Adapter and clutch @ 1000$ from KEP
Engine bar- 200$ from the kit guys
Transaxle relocating offsets- 20$ worth of metal, drilled.
Lengthen Shifter- 5$ in parts, DIY weld.
Plastic Overflow tank - 10$ Ebay
Aluminum expansion tank - 40$ Jegs/Summit/Dedenbear.
Electric Water Pump- 250$/Dedenbear
Toy-Jet water manifold (replace the water pump)- 250$
Yellow stripe hoses- 80$ NAPA
Radiator- 180$ - Ebay
Fans- 60$ Ebay
Hose transitions - 30$ from Jags that run.
High torque starter- 200$ Ebay
GPS Speedo- 170$- Speedhut

Do your research, read as many threads as you can, go look at some completed cars. troll the classifieds for conversion parts. Save some money! Have fun.
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post May 15 2014, 08:24 PM
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Some of the stuff I can probably use from the Subie conversion, and some things I was able to look up, but some I'm not able to put the face to it.

Adapter and clutch @ 1000$ from KEP
Engine bar- 200$ from the kit guys
Transaxle relocating offsets- 20$ worth of metal, drilled.
Toy-Jet water manifold (replace the water pump)- 250$
Hose transitions - 30$ from Jags that run.
High torque starter- 200$ Ebay
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post May 15 2014, 09:30 PM
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you have a subaru conversion?

why not save some money and dump about 10k into that motor...
It will put out some serious power for 10k
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post May 15 2014, 10:39 PM
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2004 WRX 2.0
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QUOTE(partwerks @ May 15 2014, 10:24 PM) *

Some of the stuff I can probably use from the Subie conversion, and some things I was able to look up, but some I'm not able to put the face to it.

Adapter and clutch @ 1000$ from KEP
Engine bar- 200$ from the kit guys
Transaxle relocating offsets- 20$ worth of metal, drilled.
Toy-Jet water manifold (replace the water pump)- 250$
Hose transitions - 30$ from Jags that run.
High torque starter- 200$ Ebay

The Kennedy adapter for the Boxster transaxle alone is $1900. This is without the clutch Kit. You can use a stock Porsche one at $650 or the Kennedy one at $950.
You can get all of the water pump fittings from Meziere and the remote pump. This will be almost $1000.
Stuff adds up fast. Makes keeping the Subaru engine look better.

If I was you I'd spend about $1000 and just put a Subaru transaxle in your car. It will feel like a different car with this.


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QUOTE(BIGKAT_83 @ May 16 2014, 06:24 AM) *

QUOTE(partwerks @ May 15 2014, 10:24 PM) *

Some of the stuff I can probably use from the Subie conversion, and some things I was able to look up, but some I'm not able to put the face to it.

Adapter and clutch @ 1000$ from KEP
Engine bar- 200$ from the kit guys
Transaxle relocating offsets- 20$ worth of metal, drilled.
Toy-Jet water manifold (replace the water pump)- 250$
Hose transitions - 30$ from Jags that run.
High torque starter- 200$ Ebay

The Kennedy adapter for the Boxster transaxle alone is $1900. This is without the clutch Kit. You can use a stock Porsche one at $650 or the Kennedy one at $950.
You can get all of the water pump fittings from Meziere and the remote pump. This will be almost $1000.
Stuff adds up fast. Makes keeping the Subaru engine look better.

If I was you I'd spend about $1000 and just put a Subaru transaxle in your car. It will feel like a different car with this.

Bob


Wow that LS adapter for the boxster is $$$ wonder why so much more than the Ls/901 adapter?

I went with the Dedenbear water pump- WP3 @314$ but you can catch discounts that bring them down @ 280$. Autoplicity.com
Look for Mezieres on Craigslist, the boating community uses them.

The log plenum from Toyjet I see is up to 350$

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i60.photobucket.com-3782-1397968657.1.jpg)

Jags that run.com hose adapters-

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/jagsthatrun.com-13632-1400240537.1.jpg)

Renegade will sell you the engine bar-
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-3419-1314666698.jpg)

Here is a list of conversions. Look for build threads by member name.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=20374&hl=
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post May 16 2014, 06:41 AM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ May 15 2014, 07:30 PM) *

you have a subaru conversion?

why not save some money and dump about 10k into that motor...
It will put out some serious power for 10k



As another option, what can be done with the engine I currently have, aside from the Subie trans?
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post May 17 2014, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(bulitt @ May 16 2014, 03:26 AM) *

QUOTE(BIGKAT_83 @ May 16 2014, 06:24 AM) *

QUOTE(partwerks @ May 15 2014, 10:24 PM) *

Some of the stuff I can probably use from the Subie conversion, and some things I was able to look up, but some I'm not able to put the face to it.

Adapter and clutch @ 1000$ from KEP
Engine bar- 200$ from the kit guys
Transaxle relocating offsets- 20$ worth of metal, drilled.
Toy-Jet water manifold (replace the water pump)- 250$
Hose transitions - 30$ from Jags that run.
High torque starter- 200$ Ebay

The Kennedy adapter for the Boxster transaxle alone is $1900. This is without the clutch Kit. You can use a stock Porsche one at $650 or the Kennedy one at $950.
You can get all of the water pump fittings from Meziere and the remote pump. This will be almost $1000.
Stuff adds up fast. Makes keeping the Subaru engine look better.

If I was you I'd spend about $1000 and just put a Subaru transaxle in your car. It will feel like a different car with this.

Bob


Wow that LS adapter for the boxster is $$$ wonder why so much more than the Ls/901 adapter?

I went with the Dedenbear water pump- WP3 @314$ but you can catch discounts that bring them down @ 280$. Autoplicity.com
Look for Mezieres on Craigslist, the boating community uses them.

The log plenum from Toyjet I see is up to 350$

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i60.photobucket.com-3782-1397968657.1.jpg)

Jags that run.com hose adapters-

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/jagsthatrun.com-13632-1400240537.1.jpg)

Renegade will sell you the engine bar-
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-3419-1314666698.jpg)

Here is a list of conversions. Look for build threads by member name.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=20374&hl=



I wonder on the engine bar, if i discontinue my engine bar for the Subie?

I could make the engine bar, maybe, if I had a pattern.

Also, how do I look up the members name/posts?

My mechnic showed me how to do the pipes with the water pump, as he is doing an ls conversion on a camaro.
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QUOTE(bulitt @ May 16 2014, 03:26 AM) *

QUOTE(BIGKAT_83 @ May 16 2014, 06:24 AM) *

QUOTE(partwerks @ May 15 2014, 10:24 PM) *

Some of the stuff I can probably use from the Subie conversion, and some things I was able to look up, but some I'm not able to put the face to it.

Adapter and clutch @ 1000$ from KEP
Engine bar- 200$ from the kit guys
Transaxle relocating offsets- 20$ worth of metal, drilled.
Toy-Jet water manifold (replace the water pump)- 250$
Hose transitions - 30$ from Jags that run.
High torque starter- 200$ Ebay

The Kennedy adapter for the Boxster transaxle alone is $1900. This is without the clutch Kit. You can use a stock Porsche one at $650 or the Kennedy one at $950.
You can get all of the water pump fittings from Meziere and the remote pump. This will be almost $1000.
Stuff adds up fast. Makes keeping the Subaru engine look better.

If I was you I'd spend about $1000 and just put a Subaru transaxle in your car. It will feel like a different car with this.

Bob


Wow that LS adapter for the boxster is $$$ wonder why so much more than the Ls/901 adapter?

I went with the Dedenbear water pump- WP3 @314$ but you can catch discounts that bring them down @ 280$. Autoplicity.com
Look for Mezieres on Craigslist, the boating community uses them.

The log plenum from Toyjet I see is up to 350$

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i60.photobucket.com-3782-1397968657.1.jpg)

Jags that run.com hose adapters-

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/jagsthatrun.com-13632-1400240537.1.jpg)

Renegade will sell you the engine bar-
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-3419-1314666698.jpg)

Here is a list of conversions. Look for build threads by member name.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=20374&hl=



I wonder on the engine bar, if i discontinue my engine bar for the Subie?

I could make the engine bar, maybe, if I had a pattern.

Also, how do I look up the members name/posts?

My mechnic showed me how to do the pipes with the water pump, as he is doing an ls conversion on a camaro.
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