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tranny woes |
injunmort |
Jun 21 2014, 04:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
my '71 w/tailshifter started to pop out of first gear occasionally, now it wont stay in at all. no problems with the other gears and reverse. fairly new shifter bushings and clutch has been adjusted. any thoughts? thank you
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colingreene |
Jun 21 2014, 05:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 729 Joined: 17-October 13 From: Southern California Member No.: 16,526 Region Association: Southern California |
Probably get ahold of Dr. Evil as hes in your area ( I think) he can sort you out.
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Dr Evil |
Jun 21 2014, 05:51 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If all of your external stuff it in good shape, then the teeth and or band are shot.
This aint the one you built at the clinic, is it? |
injunmort |
Jun 21 2014, 06:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
no, that one is going in the 72 on the rotisserie, this is the yellow 71 that I have been driving a lot this year. it never shifted well, is it possible that the linkage is adjusted incorrectly? how you be, btw.
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Dr Evil |
Jun 21 2014, 06:21 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I am alive....long story (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
You have to verify that all is healthy and adjusted in the linkage before you go into the transmission. However, tail shifters are notorious for crappy shifting at their best. BUT, it should stay in gear. Any other gears messed up? |
injunmort |
Jun 21 2014, 06:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
no all the other gears are fine including reverse, which makes me think your first thought is accurate. first has always been wonky. I hope all is well.
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Dr Evil |
Jun 21 2014, 06:51 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Autopsy time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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injunmort |
Jun 21 2014, 07:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
still in the parts business?
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Dave_Darling |
Jun 21 2014, 09:34 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The following article may help, if you decide to dig in:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/9...anny_repair.htm --DD |
Dr Evil |
Jun 21 2014, 11:51 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
still in the parts business? You know it, man. I cant keep away. I got what you need (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
injunmort |
Jul 18 2014, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
I finally had the time to address the woes, swapped the whole first gear assembly with the one done at the clinic, what is the trick to replace the tail cone? first gear dogs we toast as was the synchro band.
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Dr Evil |
Jul 18 2014, 09:01 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The cone should be easy, unless you are doing it with engine in car. If that is the case, a little heavy grease holds the washer and flat bearing in place. When you say you swapped 1st, did you swap the idler gear and the little gear on the end of the shaft, too? You must keep these all together as one happy family. Make sure to TQ the big-ass-bolt to 80-90ft/lb. Uses a deep 30mm.
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injunmort |
Jul 19 2014, 08:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
I did not swap the idler gear, I guess I will be doing that today. thank you. the engine and trans are in the car.
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Dr Evil |
Jul 19 2014, 08:30 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Anytime, man. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Glad I can help.
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injunmort |
Jul 19 2014, 03:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
I must have fuched something up, now it wont shift at all, the lever wont move and it was difficult to reassemble. going to go back out and take it apart again. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I had to leave it alone for a few minutes because I started to reach for a bfh.
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Dr Evil |
Jul 19 2014, 03:10 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Tail shifters are the biggest PITA and for lower performance.
You must make sure the shifter rod in the box that is actuated by the tail cone stuff is not dislocated. Then, you must make sure the mechanism in the tail cone is lines up and engaged with that rod. If you dislodged the internal main shift rod, you need to relocated it first and foremost. Hard to explain, a PITA to do. Sorry. Wish you lived closer as it would take me a second. |
injunmort |
Jul 19 2014, 03:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
thanks mike, I appreciate the attention. when I take it apart again, should I remove the speedo drive? I think it was in first gear when I took it apart the first time now I have no idea.
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Dr Evil |
Jul 19 2014, 03:24 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
thanks mike, I appreciate the attention. when I take it apart again, should I remove the speedo drive? I think it was in first gear when I took it apart the first time now I have no idea. Speedo can stay in. It needs to be in neutral when you assemble it so that the internal rod has some play to mate with the external tail cone shift mech. Do you have the little plate on the tail cone? That needs to come off to get the parts to mate properly. |
Dr Evil |
Jul 19 2014, 03:29 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
BTW, neutral means the rod can easily be rotated. In and out = shifting gears.
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injunmort |
Jul 19 2014, 04:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
the plate is off but it looks like I may got the linkage in wrong. I am now taking apart again. hopefully I didn't destroy anything when I put it back together.
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