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post Dec 11 2014, 09:50 PM
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What motors are you using?
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post Dec 11 2014, 10:38 PM
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2000 2.5 SOHC with performance heads & cams. Normally aspirated putting 158hp to the rear wheels (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . With a suby tranny to for nice new shifting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif). That is a normally aspirated 4 cylinder
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post Dec 11 2014, 10:42 PM
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My favorite base engine is a 2007-2009 EJ25. These have DBW and VVT and we can really turn them up with port rebalance and symmetrical cams, coupled to a 2.8L bump with Nickies.
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post Dec 11 2014, 11:02 PM
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Ej20k turbo 1997 , 275hp, 250 tq
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post Dec 12 2014, 03:42 AM
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EG33, modeled after the bulletproof EJ22. Forged steel crank and rods, forged aluminum pistons and 7 main bearings. Later on if you're so inclined you can fit EJ22 turbo pistons from JE or stock pieces and boost it past 400hp without working hard. Only 230hp stock but very restrictive intake and exhaust that when opened up will make lots more power with very little work. Longer and heavier than any other Subie engine, it will still work well in the 914. IMHO... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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2004 2.5 16 valve with a G20 turbo.
Hope to have hp numbers in January.
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post Dec 12 2014, 09:54 AM
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EZ30D. 1.5" longer than the 2.5 4cylinder. The lighter 6 of the Suby 6's. Whichever route you choose, and they're all an improvement, complete it with the Suby trans for the complete upgrade.
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post Dec 12 2014, 12:01 PM
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post Dec 12 2014, 12:28 PM
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Ej20k turbo 1997 , 275hp, 250 tq

What car is this from?
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post Dec 12 2014, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Dec 12 2014, 04:42 AM) *

EG33, modeled after the bulletproof EJ22. Forged steel crank and rods, forged aluminum pistons and 7 main bearings. Later on if you're so inclined you can fit EJ22 turbo pistons from JE or stock pieces and boost it past 400hp without working hard. Only 230hp stock but very restrictive intake and exhaust that when opened up will make lots more power with very little work. Longer and heavier than any other Subie engine, it will still work well in the 914. IMHO... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

And they're cheap to acquire
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post Dec 12 2014, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Dec 12 2014, 07:54 AM) *

EZ30D. 1.5" longer than the 2.5 4cylinder. The lighter 6 of the Suby 6's. Whichever route you choose, and they're all an improvement, complete it with the Suby trans for the complete upgrade.


Are you running an EZ30D?

Anyone know how many of the Subaru conversions that are 6 cylinder versus 4 cylinder?
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Dec 12 2014, 06:45 PM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Dec 12 2014, 07:54 AM) *

EZ30D. 1.5" longer than the 2.5 4cylinder. The lighter 6 of the Suby 6's. Whichever route you choose, and they're all an improvement, complete it with the Suby trans for the complete upgrade.


Are you running an EZ30D?

Anyone know how many of the Subaru conversions that are 6 cylinder versus 4 cylinder?

Yeppers.
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post Dec 12 2014, 08:58 PM
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+1 ez30. Not as much power potential as the 4s or the eg33 but modern fuel injection and boatloads of torque out of the box. Plus, how much more than 220 hp is really necessary...
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post Dec 12 2014, 09:21 PM
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Just joined the club. I picked up a ej253 today! I can't wait to get it installed!!!
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post Dec 12 2014, 11:04 PM
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Man, this subaru thing is full of all sorts of conflicting information.

From what i have read so far, there are no engine serial numbers on these motors.
The only way to identify a motor is based upon all the external bolt on parts, manifolds, coil packs etc...all of which can be changed.

So, walking into a junk yard, it's a gamble that you are buying a specific motor.

I am looking for an early ej20 turbo from a wrx sti.
How the heck am I supposed to be sure?
I want the forged Pistons, forged crank...
I won't be leaving this motor alone, that would defeat the whole purpose of this for me....so I want to start from a solid base.
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post Dec 13 2014, 03:27 AM
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If it's out of a WRX, it's got twin cam valve covers and it's a 2.0 unless it's been replaced which is doubtful but possible. 2.2 engines are in most Legacys and Imprezas up to 2002 with some being 2.5s, but everything 2003 and up will be 2.5. 3.3s are only available in the SVXs and are quite long where the 3.0s are only a tad longer than the 4 cyl engines. The STIs are all 2.5 and command premium prices and I'd definitely use a 6 speed STI tranny with it unless you like replacing transmissions regularly. Wish I could be more specific but hope this helps somewhat.
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post Dec 13 2014, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Dec 12 2014, 09:04 PM) *

I am looking for an early ej20 turbo from a wrx sti.

Well, the U.S. STi's were all 2.5 liters, so that's a Japanese and Rest of World engine, meaning you're probably not going to find one in a junkyard. Try an importer, who'll also be able to certify what you're buying. You're right, though, the Subaru engines are a little like T4 cylnder heads, it's tough to tell them all apart without a program. And it's more complicated because there are a lot of engines used everywhere but the U.S., so the Wikipedia articles listing the engines (All The Engines and more interest to you The Subaru EJ Engines) gets really complex, trying to point out what went where and what didn't. I've never seen a simple list of engine serial numbers, but maybe it exists and I just haven't seen it.

Back to your original question, I have a 2004 WRX engine, which I think is an EJ207 two liter. No modifications, especially, just cleaned up intake (removal of the emissions tumblers), exhaust (stock STi and no cats) and tuning (aftermarket ECU), which made 206 hp at the wheels. WRX 5MT transmission, so matched to the engine and a lot less expensive and simpler to install than the STi six speed.
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post Dec 13 2014, 08:17 AM
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I will refine what I am looking for....cause I still can't get the name or number right.

Late 90,s wrx turbo.
Sounds like the first high powered turbo.
It should be around in the junk yards.

Still boggles my mind....no serial numbers on these motors to help identify what is inside the case.

I will see what my local guy has already pulled today, see if i can make heads or tails of it....
I keep looking for a rusty old subaru because I would rather have a complete car to start with.
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post Dec 13 2014, 08:41 AM
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The 6 speed is longer than the 5 speed. You'd probably have to remove the rear valance. If you couple that to an eg33 you might be into the firewall.

Rich, if it's a 4 banger you want you'll need to spend some time a Nasioc with the REAL brats. There is a ton of info on the FrankenMotors there.

If your on the fence re: a Suby 4 vs a 6 ask yourself what you want out of it:

Stock 4's = 165hp/torque, great economy and smooth, smooth Suby reliabilty.

STI/Turbo's/FrankenMotors = Ass stomping drag cars that are going to require some SS exhaust work, tuning and a drivetrain equal to the task. Probably not an AX car for the novice with the turbo.

Stock 6's = Loads of power, torque and reliability.

Turbo 6 = Demonic

I STRONGLY recommend purchasing a Suby donor car whichever route you choose.
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