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Front and rear sway bars, What works for you? |
mgp4591 |
Sep 5 2015, 09:31 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,383 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Just missed out on a set of sway bars in the Classified but have a question for those who know-
I'm looking for front and rear sway bars for my car which is running a heavier than stock equipment EG33 and was wondering what has worked for others? I know Tarrett and other companies make the full-on race bars but I don't think I'll need something that fancy. Anyone have experience with Addco or any other aftermarket bars? Any opinions on what would work, possibly someone with a V8 conversion could chime in as to what their builds are runnning? That would be in the weight range- I may run an autocross and a track once in awhile but mainly spirited driving on twisty roads which is everyones favorite! What works on your car? |
mepstein |
Sep 6 2015, 06:04 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,314 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Doesn't stevegm have a front or rear set for sale
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stevegm |
Sep 6 2015, 06:07 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,111 Joined: 14-July 14 From: North Carolina Member No.: 17,633 Region Association: South East States |
Sold last week. Sorry.
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mepstein |
Sep 6 2015, 06:30 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,314 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Well then I have 2 sets available. 1 stock set from a '73 that I still have to pull from the car $350 + ship and another uniidentified set.
Mpg gets first dibs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
kupcar |
Sep 6 2015, 07:07 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 14-February 13 From: Chicago Member No.: 15,528 Region Association: None |
My car has a Weltmeister bar up front and a stock bar in the rear. I've only had the car a short while, but man it really corners flat with that set-up.
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rfinegan |
Sep 6 2015, 07:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I like the stock bars ash parts. 19mm front with stock springs and for the rear stock bar and 100 lb spring .Smooth daily driver that is great in the turns...this combo is hard to beat but the 914-6 parts are getting hard to come buy
-Robert |
campbellcj |
Sep 6 2015, 09:47 AM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,549 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
I would suggest OE factory for your application; in the aftermarket, Tarrett is the go-to brand now. Smart Racing Products left the business and Weltmeister suffers from design and quality shortcomings.
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Larmo63 |
Sep 6 2015, 10:18 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Factory stuff works fine, unless you are going racing or doing autocross. My stock set made my five lug set up complete. The car handles very well and flat in corners.
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stugray |
Sep 6 2015, 12:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
I wont say "all", but "most" 914 racers that I know of do not use a rear sway bar.
The 914s on the track are about the "flatest" cornering cars of all the vintage cars on the track even without rear bars. I believe the mid engine contributes a lot to that. I think the biggest argument against rear bars is that it will make the car more likely to lift a rear wheel. So unless you have a LSD, that is a highly undesirable trait. |
aircooledtechguy |
Sep 6 2015, 05:25 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I've got a factory F & R set on my 914. You need both of the factory bars to get the handling you want. The front alone does not do it. The pair together is perfect for a street car. Couple the bars with Konis on all corners, and my car really handles well.
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Johny Blackstain |
Sep 6 2015, 06:26 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
My LE is 100% stock f/r, while the six has a stock front & a Weltmeister rear, keeping a Quaife grounded.
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mgp4591 |
Sep 6 2015, 07:38 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,383 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Well then I have 2 sets available. 1 stock set from a '73 that I still have to pull from the car $350 + ship and another uniidentified set. Mpg gets first dibs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hey thanks, I appreciate that! The other unidentified set- do you have any measurements for the bars themselves or do they look like the 73 bars? Also, I'm pretty sure that time ravages everything, so how does that figure in for sway bars- do they fatigue that much over time making original bars that much weaker? New is always new but if stock original holds up, they're already proven to work well... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
mepstein |
Sep 6 2015, 07:48 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,314 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Well then I have 2 sets available. 1 stock set from a '73 that I still have to pull from the car $350 + ship and another uniidentified set. Mpg gets first dibs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hey thanks, I appreciate that! The other unidentified set- do you have any measurements for the bars themselves or do they look like the 73 bars? Also, I'm pretty sure that time ravages everything, so how does that figure in for sway bars- do they fatigue that much over time making original bars that much weaker? New is always new but if stock original holds up, they're already proven to work well... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) I don't think the bars themselves fatigue like a torsion bar. It's the bushings that wear. I think the front is stock. I know the rear is an adaco sway bar as identified by sir Andy. I'll post a pic in the am. I know the adaco is not very desirable. |
mgp4591 |
Sep 6 2015, 08:00 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,383 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Well then I have 2 sets available. 1 stock set from a '73 that I still have to pull from the car $350 + ship and another uniidentified set. Mpg gets first dibs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hey thanks, I appreciate that! The other unidentified set- do you have any measurements for the bars themselves or do they look like the 73 bars? Also, I'm pretty sure that time ravages everything, so how does that figure in for sway bars- do they fatigue that much over time making original bars that much weaker? New is always new but if stock original holds up, they're already proven to work well... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) I don't think the bars themselves fatigue like a torsion bar. It's the bushings that wear. I think the front is stock. I know the rear is an adaco sway bar as identified by sir Andy. I'll post a pic in the am. I know the adaco is not very desirable. Thanks- you can PM me with details and pictures. I'd prefer stock but let's see what you've got! And if you're getting rid of these, what are YOU using? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
mepstein |
Sep 6 2015, 08:11 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,314 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Well then I have 2 sets available. 1 stock set from a '73 that I still have to pull from the car $350 + ship and another uniidentified set. Mpg gets first dibs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hey thanks, I appreciate that! The other unidentified set- do you have any measurements for the bars themselves or do they look like the 73 bars? Also, I'm pretty sure that time ravages everything, so how does that figure in for sway bars- do they fatigue that much over time making original bars that much weaker? New is always new but if stock original holds up, they're already proven to work well... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) I don't think the bars themselves fatigue like a torsion bar. It's the bushings that wear. I think the front is stock. I know the rear is an adaco sway bar as identified by sir Andy. I'll post a pic in the am. I know the adaco is not very desirable. Thanks- you can PM me with details and pictures. I'd prefer stock but let's see what you've got! And if you're getting rid of these, what are YOU using? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Probably a tarret or grp front and no rear bar on my 6 conversion. |
Dave_Darling |
Sep 6 2015, 09:08 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
I believe that the Addco front bars are under-body, like the later 911 bars. Cheaper and easier to manufacture, but not as effective as the 914's through-body type. They also can't easily be made adjustable.
I have a Weltmeister bar. It's OK. User Artechnika on this BBS blames an undersized fastener on a WM sway bar kit for failing and causing his Six to roll. I haven't yet seen any problems on my setup, myself. --DD |
Larmo63 |
Sep 6 2015, 10:53 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
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mgp4591 |
Sep 6 2015, 11:23 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,383 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
I actually think having front AND rear stock sway bars works much better. (on my car) Of course that is just street use so far. I am running 180# springs in the rear with Bilsteins…. I'll be running heavier than stock engine and trans so I'm thinking a rear bar is a good idea also. How does your car ride with the 180# springs in the back because I'm thinking on replacing those also. |
mepstein |
Sep 7 2015, 05:03 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,314 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Chris Foley told be stock front and rear work well for a street car. My 6 will have stiffer springs so I'm going to leave out a rear for now. Easily changed in the future once the car gets on the road.
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mgp4591 |
Sep 7 2015, 05:36 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,383 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Chris Foley told be stock front and rear work well for a street car. My 6 will have stiffer springs so I'm going to leave out a rear for now. Easily changed in the future once the car gets on the road. You're going with the EG33 also but I'm doing the automatic {for now} and that's pretty good weight for the rear so that's my justification for the rear bar. So you've got a stock front bar that still needs removal and an Addco on the rear of the same car? Do you know what your other car has for bars and could you sent pics? You can send pics of both sets on IM if you'd like, keep it a little more private that way... |
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