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Axle shaft knocks into hub, What is the reason? |
ruby914 |
Aug 23 2016, 11:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 26-April 09 From: Hawthorne, Ca Member No.: 10,305 Region Association: None |
A long time ago, I started to get a knocking sound when I accelerated from a stop. At first I was worried but far from home there were no other problems so I just got use to it. I have been driving it like this for some time now. Now its time to fix it. Sounds like my axle shaft is knocking into hub. I just pulled the Inbd CV and the C clip is on the axle. Before I pull the Outbd CV, I thought I would ask what I should be looking for. Any thoughts?
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BigFour1973 |
Aug 23 2016, 11:20 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 16-November 14 From: Long Beach Member No.: 18,126 Region Association: Southern California |
A long time ago, I started to get a knocking sound when I accelerated from a stop. At first I was worried but far from home there were no other problems so I just got use to it. I have been driving it like this for some time now. Now its time to fix it. Sounds like my axle shaft is knocking into hub. I just pulled the Inbd CV and the C clip is on the axle. Before I pull the Outbd CV, I thought I would ask what I should be looking for. Any thoughts? Check your transmission mounts, it sounds like its tilting and bumping into the metal. if thats not it check the motor mounts and see if they are still intact |
ruby914 |
Aug 23 2016, 11:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 26-April 09 From: Hawthorne, Ca Member No.: 10,305 Region Association: None |
A long time ago, I started to get a knocking sound when I accelerated from a stop. At first I was worried but far from home there were no other problems so I just got use to it. I have been driving it like this for some time now. Now its time to fix it. Sounds like my axle shaft is knocking into hub. I just pulled the Inbd CV and the C clip is on the axle. Before I pull the Outbd CV, I thought I would ask what I should be looking for. Any thoughts? Check your transmission mounts, it sounds like its tilting and bumping into the metal. if thats not it check the motor mounts and see if they are still intact Motor / transmission mounts are all good. I can push and pull the axle shaft in and out and recreate the knock. Even after pulling the Indb CV I hear it by hand hitting something? |
BigFour1973 |
Aug 23 2016, 12:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 16-November 14 From: Long Beach Member No.: 18,126 Region Association: Southern California |
maybe check out the suspension pick up points? check the top hats of the springs for rubber bushings or lack there of. see if theres play in the rear trailing arm.
Other then that im out of guesses. |
76-914 |
Aug 23 2016, 01:51 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,504 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Bad CV. Where you been?
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stownsen914 |
Aug 23 2016, 04:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 913 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
In my 914 racecar I have this issue. For years I used stock 914 CVs. I'd see light polishing on the tranny output flanges where the CV cages or balls were contacting the flanges. No damage, really, just light contact that polished the flanges a little. I don't think there is anything loose in the suspension, so I assumed this was caused by natural movement back and forth of the CVs, either from side forces in turns, or perhaps from some thrust forces that happen when power is applied through the CVs. And there is plenty of side to side slack with my axles throughout the suspension travel, so I don't think the axles/CVs were being mechanically forced into the flanges.
A couple years ago I tried Empi beetle CVs (required machining to fit) since 914 ones aren't available anymore. The thrust forces seemed to get much worse with the Empis. After only a short time those light polished areas on the output flanges became machined divets. I assume the Empi joints are designed differently and somehow there were greater thrust forces. I switched to Lobro beetle CVs, and so far, so good. Scott |
Cracker |
Aug 23 2016, 07:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
I guess I don't understand. From your description, as I *thought* I understood it - it sounds like your spindle nut is not fully tightened. Again, I might be off base with what you are describing.
Tony |
ssuperflyoldguy |
Aug 23 2016, 07:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 173 Joined: 15-November 15 From: NorCal - East Bay Baby! Member No.: 19,364 Region Association: None |
new here as a 914 mechanic but maybe bent swing arm or bad cv
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Larry.Hubby |
Aug 23 2016, 09:01 PM
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Member who doesn't post much, but has a long time in 914s Group: Members Posts: 186 Joined: 24-November 04 From: Palo Alto, CA Member No.: 3,172 Region Association: Northern California |
It may be your CVs just need re-packing with grease. When my car was fairly new, I remember a mechanic checking the CVs with the car up on a lift. He just grabbed the half shafts and tried to move them in and out. One didn't make any noise when he did that, and the other knocked like you describe. He said, "We better re-pack this one with grease. If you let them go like that, they'll ruin the CVs and maybe the stub axles." He re-packed it, and it was fine. Years later, an axle began to knock when I accelerated from a standing start, sounding the same way. I remembered the previous diagnosis and had the axles re-packed. Problem solved.
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Frankvw |
Aug 23 2016, 11:55 PM
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working on my first 914 ! Group: Members Posts: 651 Joined: 13-April 16 From: Holland, the Netherlands Member No.: 19,896 Region Association: Europe |
I agree with the repacking and also check the CV in general...all bolted up OK ? My friend has a VW T2a where we installed an IRS trans in the lowering project....same symptom...CV bolts were loose and came more loose after some miles driving.
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ruby914 |
Aug 24 2016, 09:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 26-April 09 From: Hawthorne, Ca Member No.: 10,305 Region Association: None |
Thanks guys,
after Stownsen914 reply I felt just repacking may be all it needs, to slow down and dampen a normal condition. I had to go to work so I still haven't pulled the Outbd CV yet. Larry and frank confirmed this thinking. I have a set of CV that came off my suby car so I will replace the Outdb CV with one of those, freshly packed units. PS, Hey Kent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif). |
whitetwinturbo |
Aug 24 2016, 10:41 AM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
...............how about a link to the "repacking" thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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76-914 |
Aug 24 2016, 02:03 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,504 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Well I'm glad your driving it. I still remember you "launching" us onto the freeway from that uphill entrance. What a kick in the (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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