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> Topping up with Diesel, Sure runs nice
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:23 AM
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I dropped by a restorer house and asked him about my engine.
Spitting out oil out the exhaust pipes.
Excessive oil usage.

He suggested adding a bit of diesel fuel.
Said it might help with removing carbon from heads,etc.

Long story short:
Car ran way way cooler at 75 MPH.
Engine revved so smoothly up to any RPM.

Whats the deal???.

Topped up tank,now back to normal.
I am a believer though,engine sounded like a new motor for a while.
Anyway seems worth mentioning,was really surprised how my car could run.

Cheers.
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Whitney Mic
post Sep 20 2016, 08:34 AM
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I read about this in "The Idiot's Guide To Volkswagen Repair" by John Muir. I don't recall if he said to pour a bit directly into the carbs or not; my copy is in the 914, I will check later. If you do it that way, make sure you rev the engine some, it's near impossible to re-start with diesel in the carbs.

It does exactly as you said, I've also heard it can be hard on an older engine.

I couldn't say if it's a good idea...

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post Sep 20 2016, 08:40 AM
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its oil,just very thin oil and lubes parts well
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:48 AM
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its oil,just very thin oil and lubes parts well
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I figured that for the removal of carbon it had something to do with a slower, longer burn time in the head. This would heat and burn the carbon deposits to the point they could break loose from the head and valves.

As I said earlier, I will have a look at that page in the Idiot Guide to recall what Mr. Muir wrote when I get a chance.

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post Sep 20 2016, 08:52 AM
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a can of seafoam will do the same thing
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post Sep 20 2016, 09:42 AM
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You add the diesel to the fuel tank.
I had less than a quarter of a tank,so I added 1/2 cup of diesel to the tank.

Engine temp dropped drastically,could not get it over 1/2 mark going 75 MPH.I can assure you this is not how it runs normally.Car never got above 1/2 mark.
Also car felt like it could rev to 6000 RPM,was really crazy.

I am about to rebuild motor and was hoping he would do it for me,so I had nothing to loose trying it.


This is not a back yard mechanic who told me this,he is a real mechanic,who has been working on old cars his whole life.At a shop.
Anyway pretty weird.
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post Sep 20 2016, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(injunmort @ Sep 20 2016, 10:52 AM) *

a can of seafoam will do the same thing

No it wont.Engine temp drop,motor gets so quiet is crazy,more power,revs like crazy.
I have used sea-foam before,this is nothing like it.
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post Sep 20 2016, 01:00 PM
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seafoam is kerosene based, like diesel, yeah it will. ^ it is not tech-tron, fuel injection cleaner or a host of other fuel additives. it is a kerosene based solvent that will do all and more than diesel will. you have stumbled onto nothing new here, the british have been adding paraffin (diesel, kerosene) to their poor quality fuels since the thirties to increase octane and minimize decoking cycles.
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post Sep 20 2016, 02:12 PM
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Interesting! The things you learn from 914world!

FWIW - I wouldn't add seafoam to a full tank. I did that to my diesel pusher and it just oozes out of the fuel filler neck.
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post Sep 20 2016, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(Whitney Mic @ Sep 20 2016, 07:48 AM) *

QUOTE(6freak @ Sep 20 2016, 07:40 AM) *

its oil,just very thin oil and lubes parts well
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I figured that for the removal of carbon it had something to do with a slower, longer burn time in the head. This would heat and burn the carbon deposits to the point they could break loose from the head and valves.

As I said earlier, I will have a look at that page in the Idiot Guide to recall what Mr. Muir wrote when I get a chance.

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post Sep 20 2016, 02:15 PM
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Well I never hoid of such a thing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

But I'm gonna give it a shot, just for kicks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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post Sep 20 2016, 02:24 PM
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Well I never hoid of such a thing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

But I'm gonna give it a shot, just for kicks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

ok but dont try it the other way around.....BOOOM
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post Sep 20 2016, 03:08 PM
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We do here over in the French Alps -27 celcius no diesel additive works well enough to stop the diesel from waxing.( I live at 5500 ft) We add a litre petrol per full tank of diesel.
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post Sep 20 2016, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(Porschef @ Sep 20 2016, 04:15 PM) *

Well I never hoid of such a thing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

But I'm gonna give it a shot, just for kicks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

I hope you do.
Its not a slight difference,its drastic,especially for a beat up motor like mine.
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post Sep 20 2016, 05:30 PM
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Certainly an inexpensive alternative to say, Marvel Mystery Oil (honestly so!)...

Maybe MMO is just #2 HHO... Hey, it's the same color! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Sep 20 2016, 05:33 PM
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My dad and grandpa told me this in the 1970's. Old school stuff...
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post Sep 20 2016, 05:47 PM
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Did you walk through donkey poop right after they told you you'll be just fine?
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I have used water poured slowly into the intake which steam cleans the Pistons,
Tell us...how did you put the diesel in? Just add to the fuel?
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post Sep 20 2016, 06:08 PM
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^ a blown head gasket on a water cooled engine will do the same thing at the cylinder where the breech is.
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post Sep 20 2016, 06:43 PM
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Hey, this is gettin' fun... Can I pour or mist some water down the intake of my TDI to clear out the soot that may be keeping the VVT from functioning as it should? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Like I seen on them internets? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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