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Remove all paint from body, without media blasting |
slotty008 |
Nov 24 2016, 02:52 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 191 Joined: 11-November 15 From: Belgium Member No.: 19,349 Region Association: None |
I want to have the car repainted in the original colour without removing the engine or the interior. According to the body shop it's possible that the paint will peel off after some time because of the incompatibilty of the new and old paints. The car has been repainted before but the green the PO used is not the original Palma Green and there are some dents and scratches that need to be removed. Rust is not a problem.
So how do I remove the paint? (chemical paste, sander,...) |
falcor75 |
Nov 24 2016, 03:33 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,579 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Sweden Member No.: 15,176 Region Association: Scandinavia |
Start with a paintstripper on a small patch behind a bumper or similar to see it it works. On my car the stripper only worked on some areas. Where it doesnt work you'll need to sand it down.
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somd914 |
Nov 24 2016, 05:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,171 Joined: 21-February 11 From: Southern Maryland Member No.: 12,741 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Paint strippers of today are weak, and agree you might not have good results. Try different brands. Kleen Strip Aircraft Paint Remover was recommended to me by a body shop friend but haven't tried it yet.
An orbital sander will take paint down quickly, but be careful of any existing filler that might be under the paint as the sander will cut into the filler quickly. |
stevegm |
Nov 24 2016, 09:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,111 Joined: 14-July 14 From: North Carolina Member No.: 17,633 Region Association: South East States |
I hand-sanded it off.
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Andyrew |
Nov 24 2016, 10:39 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
A DA sander with 36grit will cut down the big stuff and then 80 grit to bare metal. I can strip a body panel to bare metal in an hour tops this way and your not etching the metal with chemicals.
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dflesburg |
Nov 24 2016, 10:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
here is mine back in 1992
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flmont |
Nov 24 2016, 11:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I have seen a commercial about a company that franchises some equipment that comes to you and strips the car on site,..check U-tube for demonstartion. Sorry I cant remember thier name right now.
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stugray |
Nov 24 2016, 11:33 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
If money was no object, you could use CO2 ice blasting.
It leaves nothing behind except the paint dust that was removed. The "old" Jasco paint remover worked like a miracle and would strip paint off the car to bare metal in seconds. The new stuff is not nearly as aggressive. Aircraft paint remover is the best that I have found recently. |
FourBlades |
Nov 24 2016, 12:33 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,055 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Cutting grooves in the surface of the paint by sanding a little, then applying stripper works pretty well. Cover the stripper with saran wrap so it does not evaporate right away. It is messy, but I got 7 layers of paint off my car this way. John |
GeorgeRud |
Nov 24 2016, 07:05 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Is the CO2 blasting the same process as the Dustless Blasting that's advertised on My Classic Car with Dennis Gage?
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draganc |
Nov 24 2016, 07:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 725 Joined: 2-November 09 From: central new jersey Member No.: 11,000 Region Association: North East States |
Is the CO2 blasting the same process as the Dustless Blasting that's advertised on My Classic Car with Dennis Gage? No it's not. Dustless is using water and a abrasive compound, I believe it's baking Soda. Hence, it's a mechanical stripping. CO2 is frozen and once it's hits the surface the CO2 is vaporized at impact and the "blast" lifts of the paint. IIRC, CO2 will 99% only attack the paint, whereas DB has some abrasive "touch" to it but will not remove rust. |
mb911 |
Nov 25 2016, 07:07 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,881 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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HalfMoon |
Nov 25 2016, 09:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 828 Joined: 13-November 12 From: Shenandoah Junction, WV Member No.: 15,144 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have found that the Norton rapid strip wheel on a 4-1/2" grinder works amazingly wheel. I did a wheel well and the outer fender in about 15 minutes. Agree https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oiPw0hsJKM |
EJZero1 |
Nov 25 2016, 11:33 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 20-October 16 From: Colorado Member No.: 20,509 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Do these Norton wheels come in various "grits"? My tub is largely stripped, but I've got a bit more to do to completely clean up the body before I can really evaluate the metal work necessary. My concern is the possibility of removing metal with the paint. On my driver's side front fender, I can feel ridges on the bare metal where a PO apparently used a pretty aggressive paint removal method and took some of the metal with it.
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mb911 |
Nov 25 2016, 11:37 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,881 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Do these Norton wheels come in various "grits"? My tub is largely stripped, but I've got a bit more to do to completely clean up the body before I can really evaluate the metal work necessary. My concern is the possibility of removing metal with the paint. On my driver's side front fender, I can feel ridges on the bare metal where a PO apparently used a pretty aggressive paint removal method and took some of the metal with it. The blue one is softer the Orange one is much more abrasive.. I also have a black one from klingspor that looks to be very aggressive. I will use that underneath. |
mlindner |
Nov 25 2016, 11:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
slotty008, I'm not sure you need to strip the car. If paint now is good and not peeling, sand and fix scratches/dents then reseal and finish......Best, Mark
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slotty008 |
Nov 25 2016, 01:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 191 Joined: 11-November 15 From: Belgium Member No.: 19,349 Region Association: None |
slotty008, I'm not sure you need to strip the car. If paint now is good and not peeling, sand and fix scratches/dents then reseal and finish......Best, Mark I don't know how long the actual paint is on but it must be at least 5 years, and it's not peeling. But the guys at the body shop say that if it is cellulose paint it wil react with the new paint and peel off. Also I don't know how many layers of paint are already there. Is there a way to measure the thickness of the paint? |
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