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Safe your screws / HW, Rust killer experience |
draganc |
Jan 29 2017, 07:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 725 Joined: 2-November 09 From: central new jersey Member No.: 11,000 Region Association: North East States |
I was going through my old pile of original HW and gave evapo-rust a try, to see if the pile of rust can be saved.
Worked out really good! Unfortunately I didn't take a picture before. However, after letting the screws sit submerged for two days in a cold garage, the screws looks "used/new". I got the small bottle at HF for $8. Any other product experience on the board? Attached thumbnail(s) |
jmitro |
Jan 29 2017, 08:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 23-July 15 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 18,986 Region Association: None |
cool; good suggestion.
now the question is.....do they need to be replated for rust protection? |
mskala |
Jan 29 2017, 09:13 PM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
I use that stuff and it definitely works.
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boxsterfan |
Jan 29 2017, 09:45 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
Unless you a build a perfect cc restoration, wouldn't it be better to just buy some new screws? Perhaps something with allen head or phillips instead of the dreaded flathead?
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draganc |
Jan 29 2017, 11:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 725 Joined: 2-November 09 From: central new jersey Member No.: 11,000 Region Association: North East States |
Unless you a build a perfect cc restoration, wouldn't it be better to just buy some new screws? Perhaps something with allen head or phillips instead of the dreaded flathead? im using new HW on all safety relevant items. the flathead screws was just a test before I was thinking to toss them. actually, i'm using torxs for the cooling tin. in some area, I think HW with some patina looks better than brand new stuff. |
raynekat |
Jan 30 2017, 10:34 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,159 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
These all need to be re-plated or they'll just quickly rust again. Chemistry 101.
If you can buy new, you should...try Belmetric. If you have irreplaceable fasteners, get them re-plated. JMHO |
mb911 |
Jan 30 2017, 11:40 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,871 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
White vinegar does same thing.. Sorry to be a downer.
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mepstein |
Jan 30 2017, 12:26 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,305 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Apple cider vinegar- as well, just a little quicker.
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gandalf_025 |
Jan 30 2017, 12:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,456 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
Yeah, why doesn't someone contact that guy that showed up here a year ago
with his ultra expensive plating prices. You know...the guy that really cares about his customers.. Seriously though.... Buy new, or send it to a plating company in a USPS Flat Rate Box and save yourself a lot of money. Just takes a little work on your part to clean the parts and send them. There are plenty of plating places that do excellent work. Some for shops that do World Class Restorations. No real need for a middle man or the costs incurred. |
6freak |
Jan 30 2017, 03:11 PM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
White vinegar does same thing.. Sorry to be a downer. lemon juice works well too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) and you can make martini`s when your done,,,i really dont know whats in a martini (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and i replaced all mine with stainless allen heads! so much nicer looking then that ratty old crap |
draganc |
Jan 30 2017, 05:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 725 Joined: 2-November 09 From: central new jersey Member No.: 11,000 Region Association: North East States |
.... Seriously though.... Buy new, or send it to a plating company in a USPS Flat Rate Box and save yourself a lot of money. Just takes a little work on your part to clean the parts and send them. There are plenty of plating places that do excellent work. Some for shops that do World Class Restorations. No real need for a middle man or the costs incurred. Can you recommend some local plating shops in the north-east region? |
mb911 |
Jan 30 2017, 06:33 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,871 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
There are no less then 25 of them within 30 miles from me. Look in your local industrial parks
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gandalf_025 |
Jan 30 2017, 06:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,456 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
When I researched this last year, I called Paul Russel and Company and asked their parts dept who they sent their plating to.
The place they used then doesn't seem to be in business now, but you could call Paul Russel and ask them who they use now. Or if you have a good restoration shop near you, ask them. I also googled zinc plating.. in Massachusetts and got a list and called them. If they can't do it, they will know who does. Pretty easy to find with a little research and a few phone calls. |
GaroldShaffer |
Jan 30 2017, 09:22 PM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,623 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
Almost all plating places will have a minimum weight they will take. You will need 50lbs and costs vary depending if they have to clean the parts before plating. That is what I found out around here anyway.
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draganc |
Jan 30 2017, 09:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 725 Joined: 2-November 09 From: central new jersey Member No.: 11,000 Region Association: North East States |
"unfortunately" I live in a very posh town, and there is no industry within 30mls of me.
I have heard about that thing called google.com - thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) but for whatever reason all the plating companies in central and north NJ only do commercial and will not touch 10lbs of private HW stuff (too small, no time, no blablabla). |
mepstein |
Jan 30 2017, 09:36 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,305 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
We have very few places around me that will do it. I need a good one that I can pack my stuff into usps flat rate boxes and ship.
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bdstone914 |
Jan 30 2017, 10:15 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,529 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
In California we have an abundance of plating shops. I switched from the last plater to a new shop that does better work. They have a $65 minimum charge. Still affordable.
They do wire rack plating. You want barrel plating for small loose hardware. I need to find a barrel plater too. And yes, it is better to restore hardware compared to the quality of a lot of what is out there. Used both vinegar and Evaporust. If you use vinegar be ready with a neural solution of baking soda, rinse and dry to prevent flash rust. I cleaned a gas tank with 15 gallons of vinegar. Flash rust happens where ever metal is not submerged but exposed to vinegar fumes. Messy and smelly. I did another with 4 gallons of evaporust. Much cleaner and easier. Cost $100 for it but used it on a lot of other parts. |
jmitro |
Jan 31 2017, 07:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 23-July 15 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 18,986 Region Association: None |
If I had just a few screws to replace it would be easy to buy new ones; but my nut and bolt restoration means literally every nut and bolt on the car needs to be replaced. Trying to obtain the correct length, size, thread pitch, and strength would be nuts so I'm going to look into replating.
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