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A lofty v8 Conversion |
Cracker |
Dec 8 2017, 10:43 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
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Andyrew |
Dec 8 2017, 11:11 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Is that really an LS conversion? Didnt see any pics of the engine. Absolutely crazy if it is!
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Rand |
Dec 8 2017, 11:16 AM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Is this someone you know? Interesting they kept the six pipes out each side.
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Cracker |
Dec 8 2017, 11:17 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
If it is now acceptable to put an LS1 in a P51 replica and put your life on the line in doing so!
The build reminds me of the many teener projects I've heard about...20-years and 5000 hours. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Cracker |
mepstein |
Dec 8 2017, 11:17 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,578 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
60+ years after my cousin Billy (Tiger) flew his P51 in Germany, he went up for a ride.
He said his plane had 2000+ HP. After the war, he graduated from MIT and at 93, he's sharper than I'll ever be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk5lV3P4V-k Attached image(s) |
Cracker |
Dec 8 2017, 11:25 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
Wow Mark...you should be proud!!! Thanks for sharing that with us...thank you who have served our country in any fashion too!
Tony |
mepstein |
Dec 8 2017, 11:45 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,578 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Wow Mark...you should be proud!!! Thanks for sharing that with us...thank you who have served our country in any fashion too! Tony We saw Billy over Thanksgiving. He's a great guy. Lots of great stories if you ask but like most vets, came home from the war and never talked about it. He started an advertising and marketing firm after college. It wasn't until 60 minutes did a special on him about 10 years ago that he even mentioned flying. He was the first pilot to attack and damage a German jet in a prop plane. He lamented that even though he had a modded turbo and pushed the engine past redline, he couldn't make up ground on the jet. Her's a funny (true) story that he likes to tell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ7zIC9bTvc |
mgp4591 |
Dec 8 2017, 01:52 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,470 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Wow Mark...you should be proud!!! Thanks for sharing that with us...thank you who have served our country in any fashion too! Tony We saw Billy over Thanksgiving. He's a great guy. Lots of great stories if you ask but like most vets, came home from the war and never talked about it. He started an advertising and marketing firm after college. It wasn't until 60 minutes did a special on him about 10 years ago that he even mentioned flying. He was the first pilot to attack and damage a German jet in a prop plane. He lamented that even though he had a modded turbo and pushed the engine past redline, he couldn't make up ground on the jet. Her's a funny (true) story that he likes to tell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ7zIC9bTvc Wow - punching holes in an ME-262 from a P-51 has gotta be one helluva ride and a rush! Congrats to him for having bowling balls of steel! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
Mueller |
Dec 8 2017, 02:09 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
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Mueller |
Dec 8 2017, 02:17 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Is this someone you know? Interesting they kept the six pipes out each side. Video showing exhaust. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlVbzpTdXWQ |
KELTY360 |
Dec 8 2017, 02:29 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
All very interesting; but not 914 or even Porsche. GM engine conversion of a fighter plane should probably have an OT designation.
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Rand |
Dec 8 2017, 02:36 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Is this someone you know? Interesting they kept the six pipes out each side. Video showing exhaust. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlVbzpTdXWQ Whaaaa? Thats crazy. But in a cool way. Thanks for that reply, Mike. |
Rand |
Dec 8 2017, 04:07 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
And we have threads about people being concerned with driving over a 3000' pass! LOL!
What kind of extra engine management / fuel control goes into something like this? |
Dave_Darling |
Dec 8 2017, 04:43 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,051 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Engine management and fuel control would be about as simple as you can possibly get, and very mechanical. It may have centrifugal advance for the ignition, but it might be wholly or completely manual! Fuel will generally be delivered by a carburetor, with a manual mixture control.
The emphasis is on simple and reliable, and secondly on giving the pilot control. Remember that aircraft engines run in pretty narrow RPM ranges, and quick transient response is not required. It is generally fine if it takes 10 or 15 seconds to get to full power. Supercharger boost would be the primary power control. They ran up to something like 30 PSI of boost at maximum. The Merlins had large two-stage superchargers on the aft end of the engine. The Allisons were built for turbocharging, and not that much work was done on mechanical supercharging. The turbo systems would up being problematical to fit in a single-engine fighter aircraft, which kind of neutered the setup in the P-39, P-40, and early Mustang. It worked pretty well in the P-38 Lightning, at least in the Pacific where it didn't really see cold weather. Don't know what kind of setup the replica has on it, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's just a single carb and mechanical-only distributor. EDIT: Just looked at the "exhaust" video. It shows stock-type coil-on-plug ignition and a fuel-injection manifold. So it looks like standard street-car type stuff. --DD |
Cracker |
Dec 8 2017, 05:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
Interesting. It also appears to be running with a stock ECU. There is a reason this would be classified under "Experimental Aircraft"...not for me.
BTW: This is OT... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) Cracker |
KELTY360 |
Dec 8 2017, 07:31 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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