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Possible Bumper - Stampes steel Chromed- if interested OTHER thread to sign up, This is not a GB thread- at least mine - starting a new thread |
Mikey914 |
Jan 24 2018, 11:55 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,678 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
I have a connection in Vietnam that can facilitate the purchase of these at a good price. I wanted to get Mark Henery's blessing on this before proceeding but if his deal is dead we would like to put together a GB on these. So pending Mark's response I've posted. We will not make you buy the rubber tops but will offer a discount on them as incentive to help push the thread. Specifics will be pending response from Mark.
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db9146 |
Jan 24 2018, 12:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: 21-December 04 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 3,315 Region Association: None |
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mepstein |
Jan 24 2018, 12:06 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,316 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Mark H. has put a lot of work and money into this. Thank you for respecting him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Mikey914 |
Jan 24 2018, 12:21 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,678 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
I have reached out to him and let him know the thread is up, awaiting his comment. Either way I could use a set too.
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tygaboy |
Jan 24 2018, 12:25 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,319 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
I'd be interested in a set, with a no tits front.
Keep us posted as things come together. |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 24 2018, 01:24 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,898 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
we have and will always have plenty of these stainless bumpers on the shelf. We have them in front and rear without holes for bumper guards and also the rear early 70 style. We have long ago paid for the tooling for our exclusive perfect fit harrington product, as well as having perfect fit front and rear bumper guards and bumper top seals and the license plates that go in them.
We do not make the bumpers in the the GT variety, although we have made several of them over the years from standard chrome bumpers. The tooling was costly, the bumpers are costly, the shipping from vietnam is costly, the import duty is costly |
mepstein |
Jan 24 2018, 01:29 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,316 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
we have and will always have plenty of these stainless bumpers on the shelf. We have them in front and rear without holes for bumper guards and also the rear early 70 style. We have long ago paid for the tooling for our exclusive perfect fit harrington product, as well as having perfect fit front and rear bumper guards and bumper top seals and the license plates that go in them. We do not make the bumpers in the the GT variety, although we have made several of them over the years from standard chrome bumpers. The tooling was costly, the bumpers are costly, the shipping from vietnam is costly, the import duty is costly George - It’s not cool to hyjack this thread. |
JOEPROPER |
Jan 24 2018, 02:02 PM
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The answer is "no" unless you ask... Group: Members Posts: 1,184 Joined: 21-November 15 From: White Plains New York Member No.: 19,387 Region Association: North East States |
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peteyd |
Jan 24 2018, 03:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 707 Joined: 27-March 08 From: Elora, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,858 Region Association: Canada |
we have and will always have plenty of these stainless bumpers on the shelf. We have them in front and rear without holes for bumper guards and also the rear early 70 style. We have long ago paid for the tooling for our exclusive perfect fit harrington product, as well as having perfect fit front and rear bumper guards and bumper top seals and the license plates that go in them. We do not make the bumpers in the the GT variety, although we have made several of them over the years from standard chrome bumpers. The tooling was costly, the bumpers are costly, the shipping from vietnam is costly, the import duty is costly Im not trying to start a dog fight here, nor do I have any interest in the matter, but if George has in fact paid for the tooling, then we have to respect that they should be exclusive to him. Why the manufacturer in Vietnam would sell them to someone else? that isn't ethical. I am only saying this because tooling costs are huge. Im sure if anyone would have these tools made properly they would cost over 100k. I know I would not want to have someone sell my product that I've paid for. That is in fact if George does own the tooling. Pete |
Mikey914 |
Jan 24 2018, 03:55 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,678 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
we have and will always have plenty of these stainless bumpers on the shelf. We have them in front and rear without holes for bumper guards and also the rear early 70 style. We have long ago paid for the tooling for our exclusive perfect fit harrington product, as well as having perfect fit front and rear bumper guards and bumper top seals and the license plates that go in them. We do not make the bumpers in the the GT variety, although we have made several of them over the years from standard chrome bumpers. The tooling was costly, the bumpers are costly, the shipping from vietnam is costly, the import duty is costly Im not trying to start a dog fight here, nor do I have any interest in the matter, but if George has in fact paid for the tooling, then we have to respect that they should be exclusive to him. Why the manufacturer in Vietnam would sell them to someone else? that isn't ethical. I am only saying this because tooling costs are huge. Im sure if anyone would have these tools made properly they would cost over 100k. I know I would not want to have someone sell my product that I've paid for. That is in fact if George does own the tooling. Pete My contact has told me the gorge does not own the tooling on these. And then he does have the right to sell them. I'm awaiting word from Mark Henry to see where he stands. |
Chris914n6 |
Jan 24 2018, 03:59 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,338 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
George - It’s not cool to hyjack this thread. I am definitely not taking sides, buy I see Mikey do it often... it's only fair to let it go both ways. Given that George has shown more of interest in our forum lately maybe he should start doing more things to improve AA's rep... like pulling a Mikey trick and announcing a GB... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif) |
gothspeed |
Jan 24 2018, 04:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
IMO:
The only way I can see these bumpers being sold 'outside' of the initial development deal, would be if tooling costs were funded 100% (or very near that) by the manufacturer. Initiating development by sending parts to be reproduced and funding initial batch runs should have value. Permissions, arrangements or notifications should be made before 'outside' deals are made. Example: I participate in development and order 100 units, I would NOT expect the manufacturer to begin making and selling those same items before I have a chance to sell all or at least a good portion of my initial order. And if I held an option for further orders during initial agreements. It would indeed be unethical for the manufacturer to begin offering items outside of the deal. Unless of course I defaulted or failed to keep my end of the initial agreement. |
peteyd |
Jan 24 2018, 04:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 707 Joined: 27-March 08 From: Elora, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,858 Region Association: Canada |
My contact has told me the gorge does not own the tooling on these. And then he does have the right to sell them. I'm awaiting word from Mark Henry to see where he stands. Ok cool beans. give'r |
timothy_nd28 |
Jan 24 2018, 04:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,299 Joined: 25-September 07 From: IN Member No.: 8,154 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Excuse my ignorance, if someone pays 100k for tooling/molds for something like this, why wouldn't that tool/mold be shipped along with the last batch made?
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Mikey914 |
Jan 24 2018, 04:26 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,678 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Not always. We do contract manufacturing and maintain tools for the customers that we do the manufacturing for. They don't own the tooling out right. But they own All rights to manufacture on that tooling.
My understanding in this scenario is that the tooling is owned in house. If George does truly own the tooling. There's no way we could do a group Buy. |
gothspeed |
Jan 24 2018, 04:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
Excuse my ignorance, if someone pays 100k for tooling/molds for something like this, why wouldn't that tool/mold be shipped along with the last batch made? I agree, one would think so, this tooling 'ownership' should have been determined as to who owns what. |
Mikey914 |
Jan 24 2018, 04:33 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,678 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
The contract that I've seen spells it out pretty clearly. Its product only.
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gothspeed |
Jan 24 2018, 04:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
If tooling is not owned by George. I wonder if there was any stipulation by George to prohibit any outside sales for a specified period of time?
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gandalf_025 |
Jan 24 2018, 04:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,456 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
I bought mine 3 years ago....
here are the threads.. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;hl=harrington http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;hl=harrington |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 24 2018, 04:43 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,898 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
they have several sets. I had a set of tooling made that is exclusively mine along with the tow eye plug that I had them make.
However I suspect that something shifty is going on there as now everyone can get bumpers and according to them someone left their company with tooling as well. We sent bumpers back and forth quite a few times to get the best fitting product. They also recently sent us some bumpers that they had made from different tooling for us to fit, and they fit like CRAP!!!!!!!! Could not even mount the valance. Hence like a previous thread poster mentioned, there are good bumpers from them and there are ill fitting bumpers from them. MOST suppliers in our market can be trusted and for the last 40 years (yes we are celebrating 40 years in business this year) so it spoils one to trust everyone. |
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