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Vinyl delete option? |
jessem |
Oct 8 2018, 12:25 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 8-October 18 From: Idaho Member No.: 22,552 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Hi, I just bought a 1976 914 2.0 that has the appearance group. It has the fog lights, armrest, center console, etc, but there's no vinyl on the
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rjames |
Oct 8 2018, 11:32 AM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,948 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Was this car purchased from a lot on 99 up in Shoreline a few years ago? Looks like one I saw there a while back.
Roofs are all fiberglass with a textured finish. Don't think there was ever a roof covered in vinyl from the factory. |
jessem |
Oct 8 2018, 04:27 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 8-October 18 From: Idaho Member No.: 22,552 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Sorry, I was referring to the sail panels. Notice how there's a piece of trim running along the bottom where the vinyl would normally end. It's almost like someone removed it, but I can't find any evidence of that and the trim is all black instead of chrome. The car was found in Idaho.
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rjames |
Oct 8 2018, 04:56 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,948 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Sorry, I was referring to the sail panels. Notice how there's a piece of trim running along the bottom where the vinyl would normally end. It's almost like someone removed it, but I can't find any evidence of that and the trim is all black instead of chrome. The car was found in Idaho. I think the non-appearance group cars did not have the sail panel vinyl. Someone with more historical knowledge than me will have additional/better info. Also pretty sure that the cars that didn't have the sail vinyl also didn't have the lower trim piece. Lots of people paint or powder coat the trim black. Maybe someone removed the vinyl without damaging the paint underneath? Or had it resprayed. |
bretth |
Oct 8 2018, 04:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 899 Joined: 23-June 15 From: Central TX Member No.: 18,882 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I have to ask. What is that inner tube looking hose thing coming out of the engine compartment?
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Rand |
Oct 8 2018, 05:12 PM
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Rand |
Oct 8 2018, 05:15 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Sorry, I was referring to the sail panels. Notice how there's a piece of trim running along the bottom where the vinyl would normally end. It's almost like someone removed it, but I can't find any evidence of that and the trim is all black instead of chrome. The car was found in Idaho. I think you are on the right track. Somebody removed the vinyl and put the trim back. Factory trim was never all black, so repainted for sure (and likely will flake off if they didn't take better than average measures to prep it). |
jessem |
Oct 8 2018, 05:27 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 8-October 18 From: Idaho Member No.: 22,552 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Good feedback guys! This is an appearance group car though and I really doubt that someone painted all the trim. If they did they did a ton of work taking it all off and doing it professionally. Even the windshield trim is black. Someone could have removed the vinyl but it seems strange that they took it off the top of the roll bar too. I read on a blog that in 75-76 dealers could delete the vinyl and the trim would then be black. That's the only place I've seen that mentioned though.
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jessem |
Oct 8 2018, 05:44 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 8-October 18 From: Idaho Member No.: 22,552 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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JeffBowlsby |
Oct 8 2018, 06:16 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,524 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Targa bar vinyl and clear-anodized aluminum trim at the Targa bar and windshield trim was standard on 1976 914s.
Obviously your car has some PO modifications in that they removed the vinyl and painted the trim black. Look at the 914 right next it in the photo for the stock configuration. |
bbrock |
Oct 9 2018, 11:45 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Good feedback guys! This is an appearance group car though and I really doubt that someone painted all the trim. If they did they did a ton of work taking it all off and doing it professionally. Even the windshield trim is black. Someone could have removed the vinyl but it seems strange that they took it off the top of the roll bar too. I read on a blog that in 75-76 dealers could delete the vinyl and the trim would then be black. That's the only place I've seen that mentioned though. Decades ago I removed all the scratched up aluminum trim from my '73 non-appearance group car (including windshield trim), sanded it down, and painted it satin black. I regret doing it now but the paint still looks good. So, yes, people did it. As was said earlier, non-appearance group cars didn't have the thin piece of trim along the bottom of the sail panel and IMHO, it looks horrible with that piece installed without vinyl. However, removing it requires filling the mounting holes. If I was going to remove vinyl, I would have removed it from the entire roll bar. I don't think this mod seems strange at all. Not tasteful, but not strange. |
jessem |
Oct 9 2018, 01:40 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 8-October 18 From: Idaho Member No.: 22,552 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I don't know guys. Even the quarter window trim is black on the inside!
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rjames |
Oct 9 2018, 02:10 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,948 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I don't know guys. Even the quarter window trim is black on the inside! Given that the PO obviously made a number of modifications we can see just from a couple of pics (wheels, muffler, mirrors, spoiler, sail vinyl removal), I don't think it's too far fetched to think they painted the trim, too. Funny though that they didn't change the trim in the back. What's the interior look like? |
bbrock |
Oct 9 2018, 09:25 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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jessem |
Oct 10 2018, 11:08 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 8-October 18 From: Idaho Member No.: 22,552 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I don't know guys. Even the quarter window trim is black on the inside! Given that the PO obviously made a number of modifications we can see just from a couple of pics (wheels, muffler, mirrors, spoiler, sail vinyl removal), I don't think it's too far fetched to think they painted the trim, too. Funny though that they didn't change the trim in the back. What's the interior look like? You are probably right. The interior is stock and in good shape considering the fact that it sat outside for about 10 years. Unfortunately, the previous owner left the air cleaner off and the engine filled up with water. The body is in decent shape so we are trying to decide if it's worth rebuilding the engine. |
Eric_Shea |
Oct 11 2018, 05:42 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
As mentioned... PO modified. When the factory did a vinyl delete, they removed the trim from the bottom.
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SirAndy |
Oct 11 2018, 06:00 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Factory trim was never all black Not true at all ... On early cars (6 and 4) the chrome trim was optional. The standard equipment was black trim and body colored bumpers and the 74 LE cars came with black painted rear Targa bar trim. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
JeffBowlsby |
Oct 11 2018, 08:30 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,524 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Factory trim was never all black Not true at all ... On early cars (6 and 4) the chrome trim was optional. The standard equipment was black trim and body colored bumpers and the 74 LE cars came with black painted rear Targa bar trim. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I don't know the /6 cars well, but I thought that the /6s were standard with the bright trim and Targa vinyl, whereas the early /4 non-appearance group cars had no vinyl. Was the early car non-appearance group black trim or body color like the bumpers? |
SirAndy |
Oct 12 2018, 08:43 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I don't know the /6 cars well, but I thought that the /6s were standard with the bright trim and Targa vinyl, whereas the early /4 non-appearance group cars had no vinyl. I seem to recall that DGVWPB also listed the /6 chrome package as optional, but i never seen a /6 without it. I'd look it up but my DGVWPB is still hidden in one of them moving boxes somewhere. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Was the early car non-appearance group black trim or body color like the bumpers? I've seen both, actually ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
era vulgaris |
Oct 14 2018, 07:30 AM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
I thought the 70-72 base model non-appearance group /4's had body color bumpers and body color trim around the targa bar.
And then '73 base non-appearance group had black bumpers and black trim around the targa bar. And then from '74 on everyone got chrome targa bar trim (except LE's), but non-AG still had black bumpers. Windshield and side window trim was chrome for all. At least that's my understanding (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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