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914 Windshield replacement option, good deal? |
ri914 |
Dec 20 2020, 10:38 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 13-August 20 From: rhode island Member No.: 24,593 Region Association: North East States |
so my 914 needs a windshield, I found a new one from glass America for 270$ they are local so I don't have to pay for shipping. Any experience with this glass? figured I would let the 914world know. I will update this thread when I receive it and install it.
I bought a viper gts windshield from them as well and was quite impressed. the fit was great and they were about 1/2 price. |
mepstein |
Dec 20 2020, 10:54 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,316 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
There's pretty much two choices. China and Germany. The Chinese is fine. The German is maybe a touch better. It's the installation that makes more of a difference than the glass.
all my opinion only. |
ri914 |
Dec 20 2020, 12:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 13-August 20 From: rhode island Member No.: 24,593 Region Association: North East States |
There's pretty much two choices. China and Germany. The Chinese is fine. The German is maybe a touch better. It's the installation that makes more of a difference than the glass. all my opinion only. thanks for the info. I think this would be the Chinese version. I have watched a good install video about 3 times. Assuming the 914 install will be easier than the viper I should be good to go. |
mepstein |
Dec 20 2020, 12:57 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,316 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
There's pretty much two choices. China and Germany. The Chinese is fine. The German is maybe a touch better. It's the installation that makes more of a difference than the glass. all my opinion only. thanks for the info. I think this would be the Chinese version. I have watched a good install video about 3 times. Assuming the 914 install will be easier than the viper I should be good to go. Make sure to use new plastic clips |
bbrock |
Dec 20 2020, 02:12 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
There's pretty much two choices. China and Germany. The Chinese is fine. The German is maybe a touch better. It's the installation that makes more of a difference than the glass. all my opinion only. thanks for the info. I think this would be the Chinese version. I have watched a good install video about 3 times. Assuming the 914 install will be easier than the viper I should be good to go. Make sure to use new plastic clips And butyl rope caulk and not urethane. |
ri914 |
Dec 20 2020, 07:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 13-August 20 From: rhode island Member No.: 24,593 Region Association: North East States |
Make sure to use new plastic clips And butyl rope caulk and not urethane. ok, so new clips would make sense if i had window trim (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) guess I am in the market for that too... butyl rope is original but I thought urethane was the standard now. Would love to hear more convincing info on this. |
bbrock |
Dec 20 2020, 07:25 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Make sure to use new plastic clips And butyl rope caulk and not urethane. ok, so new clips would make sense if i had window trim (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) guess I am in the market for that too... butyl rope is original but I thought urethane was the standard now. Would love to hear more convincing info on this. Yes, urethane is standard now but doesn't play well with these cars. 914s flex, including the windshield frame and lots of people have reported windshields cracking in a short time when using urethane because it doesn't flex like butyl. 5/16" butyl is the right size. A search should turn up some good discussions on the subject. I'm the same as you in that I need some convincing whenever someone says a superior modern product should not be used. In this case, I was convinced. |
Tdskip |
Dec 20 2020, 07:38 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
So Glass America is the Chinese one?
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PanelBilly |
Dec 20 2020, 08:00 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,817 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
In the short amount of time that my car has been on the open road, I've had 2 windshields chipped with rocks. Better the glass than the body... This winter, I'll be putting in my third one from an independent glass business. Will be doing the install myself. I use glass cups from Harbour Freight to handle the job. I think I paid $250 last time
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brcacti |
Dec 20 2020, 08:02 PM
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1974 914 1.8 Group: Members Posts: 674 Joined: 17-July 19 From: PHX AZ 60 miles south Member No.: 23,302 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Yes, urethane is standard now but doesn't play well with these cars. 914s flex, including the windshield frame and lots of people have reported windshields cracking in a short time when using urethane because it doesn't flex like butyl. 5/16" butyl is the right size. A search should turn up some good discussions on the subject. I'm the same as you in that I need some convincing whenever someone says a superior modern product should not be used. In this case, I was convinced. [/quote] Wow, did not know they flex that much to cause possible problems BUT when you think about it, it makes sense. |
MM1 |
Dec 20 2020, 08:52 PM
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914 obsession continues Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 9-May 18 From: Thousand Oaks, CA Member No.: 22,105 Region Association: Southern California |
Great tip, Brent-thank you.
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yellowporky |
Dec 20 2020, 10:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 427 Joined: 18-October 09 From: Martinez, Ca. Member No.: 10,948 Region Association: Northern California |
I was told that it is important to get the clips from Porsche not aftermarket because the factory ones have a bit more flex to them and will not break.
Also i read somewhere that when going with the chinese glass you are to use a thicker butyl cord because the glass is thinner. I did end up buying the install kit and instructions from Auto Atlanta to install my NOS glass and everything went very smooth. |
wattele |
Dec 21 2020, 03:38 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 17-November 19 From: Belgium Member No.: 23,651 Region Association: Europe |
Yes do not use the 914Rubber clips they do break.
I had a specialist coming over to install the windshield everything went fine but we had a lot of problems with the clips. A lot of them broke so we had to glue in the trim and keep them with strong adhesive tape. Messy... Use the original Porsche clips. |
jim_hoyland |
Dec 21 2020, 06:49 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,320 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
Re the clips: the clip holes can be prone to rust. When replacing, inspect each hole, some clips have been a tad larger and would scratch the holes and expose the metal.
Not as common today, but something to check... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
DRPHIL914 |
Dec 21 2020, 07:43 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,768 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
couple things here, those using cheaper glass not OEM found the contour and shape of the glass different and difficult to get to line up and for trim to fit properly - not me but i am telling you what others have posted i verified before replacing mine.
2. the clips- yes first clips from 914rubber had brittleness issues, not the newer more recent ones. also , i got my glass from the Porsche dealer parts, $400 i believe for the windshield and only $100 for installation , so check with the parts department at the dealer, I know mine well and they use a independent guy that does all their installation, both new and old cars, so he was experienced in both and even picked up the windshield from Porsche for me and came to my house! i had it ready to go - remember prime the surface , apply the butly tape, i let them place the window and i put in the trim afterward. aftermarket trim has a reputation for not fitting as well as OEM too. And, clips have to go in before the window. other than that take your time, with the trim its difficult, if you hve nice paint or new paint i would tape off the area its easy to slip and scratch your new paint job. there are a couple jobs in reassebly of my car i can do with out ever having to do again, the most frustrating was installing the triangle glass and seal, the other the front window trim, id rather pull and engine and transmission. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
VaccaRabite |
Dec 21 2020, 08:35 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
For what its worth...
I used frit paint and windshield glue and rubber trim (no clips) when I did mine about a decade ago, and it has never chipped or cracked. Zach |
ri914 |
Dec 21 2020, 02:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 13-August 20 From: rhode island Member No.: 24,593 Region Association: North East States |
these windshields do flex a bit for sure. I agree the butyl is a better choice. I am going to test fit my glass first to see how true my body is to the chinese glass.
yes glass america is the chinese variant. I believe all their glass is from china unless they are purchasing it through a dealer as oem due to the complexity or age of the vehicle. |
buck toenges |
Jan 4 2021, 10:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 25-November 03 From: Fort wayne In Member No.: 1,388 Region Association: None |
I just called my local porsche dealer. They quoted me $540.00 for a windshield. I then called glass america and they told me they don't carry 914 windshields. Any options out there?
Buck |
rbzymek |
Jan 4 2021, 10:25 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I had the same experience. Ended up buying from the P dealer. It was (OEM) Pilkington glass. Make sure you use the rubber spacers (914Rubber) between the bottom edge of the glass and the clips. It provides some room for the clip to deflect when installing the trim.
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mepstein |
Jan 4 2021, 10:46 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,316 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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