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post Jul 2 2021, 12:41 PM
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Hey All!

I just traded my 1970 Ghia for Arizona '73 2 liter.

I wanted a 914 since I was a kid and am overjoyed to finally get to call one mine!

The last two weeks since I got it has been baselining the mechanical and electrical systems to get it into a drivable state.

Things I've done so far:
  • Coil
  • Battery
  • Fuel pump
  • Added a fuel pump relay (as it had been circumvented my previous owner)
  • Adjusted the shifter to allow for access to 4th and 5th (love the bungee method)
  • California plates

It pretty quickly needs tires and alignment, new interior door handles, wiper blades

Next it needs headlight motor debug, new body seals and weatherstripping all around and eventually paint (its primered at the moment) and a new interior

Stoked, as rust seems to be non existent and the 2 liter has about 200 miles on it.

PO set it up with a single carb, which works OK, but from what I read could certainly benefit from an upgrade. Any recommendations on where to look for sourcing an affordable option?

Thanks!

Austin
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post Jul 2 2021, 12:44 PM
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Congrats! More pictures please
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Recommend installing the original FI if the new engine has an FI cam.
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post Jul 2 2021, 01:54 PM
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You're not looking hard enough. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Congrats and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)


Post more pics, but resize 'em first. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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Congratulations! Great car to start with. I would definitely try to find out what cam is in the engine and if it is a stock cam or one that will play nicely with the factory fuel injection, that is the way to go. Get it running and driving perfectly and collect all of the stuff you will need for the cosmetics when the time does. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Get it ready for WCR2021!!!!!

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post Jul 2 2021, 07:04 PM
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Feel like I am well on my way there...
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Recommend installing the original FI if the new engine has an FI cam.


OK, thanks! I will do some investigating to determine the cam setup.
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You're not looking hard enough. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Congrats and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)


Post more pics, but resize 'em first. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Likely very true...
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Congratulations! Great car to start with. I would definitely try to find out what cam is in the engine and if it is a stock cam or one that will play nicely with the factory fuel injection, that is the way to go. Get it running and driving perfectly and collect all of the stuff you will need for the cosmetics when the time does. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)



Sounds like a wise approach, as badly as I want to doll it up quickly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 2 2021, 07:09 PM
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Congrats! More pictures please


More photos coming, I promise!

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome.

Long time member of the IH8MUD landcruiser forums (my other addiction) and have been stoked on the level of attention and collective knowledge there.

Seems like a similar community here.
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post Jul 2 2021, 08:25 PM
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Good model to start with. Unless the engine has been replaced it probably still has the FI cam. The single carb was the cheapest mod and it’s unlikely they went to the expense of changing the cam. You’ve got an unusual combination with chrome bumpers but no sail vinyl. Does your interior have the full console with gauge panel in front of the shifter?
Good luck on the 914 journey.
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post Jul 22 2021, 06:36 PM
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Good model to start with. Unless the engine has been replaced it probably still has the FI cam. The single carb was the cheapest mod and it’s unlikely they went to the expense of changing the cam. You’ve got an unusual combination with chrome bumpers but no sail vinyl. Does your interior have the full console with gauge panel in front of the shifter?
Good luck on the 914 journey.


Still waiting to investigate the FI cam question.

No, the interior is quite basic. No console, no special gauges. Appears that someone went in and added some margin carpet to replace whatever the factory carpet kit might have been.
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So as I mentioned in the original post, I did recently replace the starter. I went with a remanufactured one from Oreilly, as it was the only option that they had in stock and I need something quick. I am regretting that decision, as it now, some five or so weeks later, appears to have failed.

The mechanism of failure seems eerily similar to the previous starter, however, so I am wondering if I am perhaps missing the ultimate culprit.

On failure : specifically, the starter became progressively more intermittent in its willingness to quickly rotate when the car was already warm. AM starts always seemed OK.

Things I tested :
  • voltage at the battery (12.6V)
  • Resistance in the 1AWG cable that goes from the battery to the starter (~4 Ohms) replaced it anyway
  • Voltage at the starter during start (12.4V)
  • Voltage at the white wire connected to the solenoid from ignition switch with ignition in "start" -- (11V)
  • Added a relay with 12AWG cable direct to battery actuated by ignition switch cable. 12.3V at the solenoid

Progressively, the starts became more and more sporadic until, fast forward to yesterday, I am pushing the car down a residential street to do a compression start. No start or even labored rotation when warm, cold or otherwise.

Will take the starter out and bench test it this weekend. Do people have recommendations on starter options to use that are less likely to fail? Anything I might be missing here that could explain the very similar modes of failure?

Thanks!
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post Jul 22 2021, 07:40 PM
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Great car, congratulations!
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So as I mentioned in the original post, I did recently replace the starter. I went with a remanufactured one from Oreilly, as it was the only option that they had in stock and I need something quick. I am regretting that decision, as it now, some five or so weeks later, appears to have failed.

The mechanism of failure seems eerily similar to the previous starter, however, so I am wondering if I am perhaps missing the ultimate culprit.

On failure : specifically, the starter became progressively more intermittent in its willingness to quickly rotate when the car was already warm. AM starts always seemed OK.

Things I tested :
  • voltage at the battery (12.6V)
  • Resistance in the 1AWG cable that goes from the battery to the starter (~4 Ohms) replaced it anyway
  • Voltage at the starter during start (12.4V)
  • Voltage at the white wire connected to the solenoid from ignition switch with ignition in "start" -- (11V)
  • Added a relay with 12AWG cable direct to battery actuated by ignition switch cable. 12.3V at the solenoid
Progressively, the starts became more and more sporadic until, fast forward to yesterday, I am pushing the car down a residential street to do a compression start. No start or even labored rotation when warm, cold or otherwise.

Will take the starter out and bench test it this weekend. Do people have recommendations on starter options to use that are less likely to fail? Anything I might be missing here that could explain the very similar modes of failure?

Thanks!


Two things...

First, I would replace the ignition switch before replacing the starter again. They are a very common failure point and not too difficult to replace. I've had the best luck getting them directly from Porsche (approx $40) and steer away from the cheaper replacements.

Second, I would clean all your grounding points on the car. Not just inspect them but remove each one and clean with a wire brush.

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