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1.7 air cleaner, Which air cleaner correct for my model |
Litvin |
Nov 2 2021, 07:02 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 1-November 21 From: Poland Member No.: 26,042 Region Association: Europe |
I just bought myself a 1973, 1.7l, 914, so first of all hello to everyone.
I have noticed that some previous owner has been playing with air cleaner and for some reason has cut all the bottom of the casing with only a bracket and frame left. I have started to look for a new part but then realize that it looks that the oil cleaner I have is actually from a 2.0l engine. Can anyone provide information on which air cleaner is correct for my engine? I just want to mention this is eu. model. |
bdstone914 |
Nov 2 2021, 07:18 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,541 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Looks like you have a 2.0 engine not a 1.7. I have several of them in the US if you cant find one in Europe.
You also need the bracket that hold the air cleaner to the drivers side intake runners. |
Litvin |
Nov 2 2021, 07:35 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 1-November 21 From: Poland Member No.: 26,042 Region Association: Europe |
Looks like you have a 2.0 engine not a 1.7. I have several of them in the US if you cant find one in Europe. You also need the bracket that hold the air cleaner to the drivers side intake runners. There has been some confusion with the engine when buying the car. The owner was not sure if this is 2.0 or 1,7. Acc to papers it should be 1,7 also engine number (W0055478) would point for 1,7 engine, at least as far I was able to learn. Any easy way to tell which one I have? |
brant |
Nov 2 2021, 07:38 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,641 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
The number of studs on the intakes will identify which heads
4 is a 1.7/1.8 3 is a 2.0 |
Litvin |
Nov 2 2021, 08:03 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 1-November 21 From: Poland Member No.: 26,042 Region Association: Europe |
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mepstein |
Nov 2 2021, 08:20 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,321 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Litvin |
Nov 2 2021, 08:26 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 1-November 21 From: Poland Member No.: 26,042 Region Association: Europe |
The number of studs on the intakes will identify which heads 4 is a 1.7/1.8 3 is a 2.0 3 studs (2 on the sides one at the bottom), so the engine 1.7. Any idea which air cleaner should be equipped with? 3 studs = 2.0 Ok, 2.0 then. That means air cleaner is correct, only to be replaced for undestroyed one. Correct? |
brant |
Nov 2 2021, 08:39 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,641 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
The number of studs on the intakes will identify which heads 4 is a 1.7/1.8 3 is a 2.0 3 studs (2 on the sides one at the bottom), so the engine 1.7. Any idea which air cleaner should be equipped with? 3 studs = 2.0 Ok, 2.0 then. That means air cleaner is correct, only to be replaced for undestroyed one. Correct? Correct, but at Bruce said, you are also missing the bottom mounting component in addition to the replacement box |
jrmdir |
Nov 2 2021, 09:22 AM
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emerygt350 |
Nov 2 2021, 10:12 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,149 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
I can see from the pictures it is a 1.7. The spark plug angle is wrong and I can see the two inner studs from a 1.7 4 stud intake.
Interesting idea on the air box. Find yourself a 1.7 original... |
brant |
Nov 2 2021, 10:21 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,641 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
If its a 1.7
then someone changed the throttle body to be upright likely (I've never tried it) that conversion requires a change in runners, manifold, and air box to match the differently oriented TB brant |
Litvin |
Nov 2 2021, 11:57 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 1-November 21 From: Poland Member No.: 26,042 Region Association: Europe |
Thank you for help. It looks this project will be full of surprises. I was sure I am buying 1.7 and now it seems I have 2.0 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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emerygt350 |
Nov 2 2021, 12:35 PM
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jrmdir |
Nov 2 2021, 01:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 224 Joined: 13-May 21 From: Central Ohio Member No.: 25,544 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
There might be a clue here: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914...or-you-got.html
Note the part about 2.0L bus engines having the same spark plug locations as the 1.7 & 1.8. EDIT: But then again, the W engine code definitely points to a 1.7 914 engine. https://davidplanella.org/vw-bus-engine-codes/ Curious - but it still will be a blast to drive regardless! |
mepstein |
Nov 2 2021, 01:35 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,321 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
There might be a clue here: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914...or-you-got.html Note the part about 2.0L bus engines having the same spark plug locations as the 1.7 & 1.8. EDIT: But then again, the W engine code definitely points to a 1.7 914 engine. https://davidplanella.org/vw-bus-engine-codes/ Curious - but it still will be a blast to drive regardless! I had a 2.0 engine, with 2.0 heads built on a 1.8 case. You never know what you have until you check it all out. |
emerygt350 |
Nov 2 2021, 01:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,149 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
It will be interesting to see why they fit that plenum on there. Did they do a oversize bore on a 1.7 and looking to put the 2.0 injection system on it? Mystery!
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914sgofast2 |
Nov 2 2021, 01:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 627 Joined: 10-May 13 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 15,855 Region Association: None |
Someone probably cut out the bottom of the air cleaner box in an effort to “improve “ the engine performance. Unfortunately all they were doing was drawing in more hot air from the top of the engine. Probably put the larger 2 liter plenum and throttle body on it in their effort to boost engine power, too. Unless you dismantle the engine and measure the bore and stoke, there is no telling what size Frankenstein engine your car has in it.
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Litvin |
Nov 2 2021, 02:03 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 1-November 21 From: Poland Member No.: 26,042 Region Association: Europe |
OK. So my celebration of heaving 2.0 engine was a little bit too fast.
As I understand there is not much to tell until the engine is stripped. I took down the exhaust and it also looks to be from 1.7 |
mepstein |
Nov 2 2021, 02:17 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,321 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yes, looks like it curves up at the back of the heat exchangers. But that doesn't determine the engine size or heads used. Exhaust outlets on all the heads were the same so 2.0 engine fits 1.7 heat exchangers and vis versa.
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emerygt350 |
Nov 2 2021, 02:29 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,149 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
Considering how rare these are in Europe it might have been desperation in trying to maintain it over the years.
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