Door hinges, Original door hinges… Painted? |
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Door hinges, Original door hinges… Painted? |
Ishley |
Aug 2 2022, 09:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 4-October 21 From: Clarendon Hills Il Member No.: 25,957 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have a 1972 1.7 that I’m restoring. One of the areas that I can’t find any information on is how the door hinges were originally finished. Mine have been sprayed over several times and when I repaint I want it to look right.
Were the hinges painted to the same color of the car? What about the bolts and pins. We’re they painted or zinc/cadmium plated. I ran my bolts through my ultrasonic cleaner and it appears they are black underneath the layers of paint. Does anyone have an original picture of how it was finished from the factory? |
wonkipop |
Aug 2 2022, 10:55 PM
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sechszylinder |
Aug 3 2022, 01:43 AM
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I have a 1972 1.7 that I’m restoring. One of the areas that I can’t find any information on is how the door hinges were originally finished. Mine have been sprayed over several times and when I repaint I want it to look right. Were the hinges painted to the same color of the car? What about the bolts and pins. We’re they painted or zinc/cadmium plated. I ran my bolts through my ultrasonic cleaner and it appears they are black underneath the layers of paint. Does anyone have an original picture of how it was finished from the factory? originally they are painted in the same color of the car. never saw zinc plated or different finishes. br Benno |
StarBear |
Aug 3 2022, 05:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,910 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
Here are mine. Original and unmolested to my best recollection. Note zinc chromate bolts with 5F and 8.8 markings. Hinge bolts in opposing directions. Same on passenger side. Mid-early 74 1.8. Original owner.
Bolt head scratches do show signs of use. |
mepstein |
Aug 3 2022, 06:18 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,315 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I’ve only seen painted.
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StarBear |
Aug 3 2022, 06:39 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,910 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
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mepstein |
Aug 3 2022, 06:47 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,315 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I’ve only seen painted. Probably mine have been changed out then. Will use touch up paint to get back to correct original. I believe so. 911’s are the same. Painted door hinges and hardware to hold on front fenders. When you see shiny hardware, you know it’s been changed. |
wonkipop |
Aug 3 2022, 06:48 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,403 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Here are mine. Original and unmolested to my best recollection. Note zinc chromate bolts with 5F and 8.8 markings. Hinge bolts in opposing directions. Same on passenger side. Mid-early 74 1.8. Original owner. Bolt head scratches do show signs of use. sh#t thats fascinating. @StarBear has had his car since ground zero. i only had mine since 89. i don't think mine got fooled with before i got it. i had the right hand door off to do rhd conversion but lhd door stayed on. which is why i photographed lh door. i've never touched it. and the bolts have never been moved. and the paint is factory. is this a case of the factory did it different ways? ??????? mysteries of the 914? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
StarBear |
Aug 3 2022, 06:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,910 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
Oh, I may have changed them out many decades ago. Don’t recall doing so but will check my records. That was a long time ago, probably during the late 70s or early 80s, of which I recall little. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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mepstein |
Aug 3 2022, 06:56 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,315 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
This is from the 27k mile car on bat. I’m not saying I’m the final word on this, I’m not. I think painting the bolts was pretty standard for Porsche. I’ve seen a lot of 914’s so I believe what I’m saying is true. If it’s not, I stand corrected. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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wonkipop |
Aug 3 2022, 07:08 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,403 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
here is my karmann tag proper in focus.
she is no repaint. or i am a better counterfeiter than characters on BAT. rhs door. we drove out the hinge pins to get the door off 30 years ago. needed to manouver various beer guts in to work in pedal cluster transfer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) didnt move the hinge plates or bolts on the door jamb @StarBear may well be on to something. his car is nov 73. mine is jan 74. |
StarBear |
Aug 3 2022, 07:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,910 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
And remember - Hans seems to have worked on building my car; several abnormal things on it. A key might be the bolt markings. Are mine consistent with original or replacements?
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9146GUY |
Aug 3 2022, 07:52 AM
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brant |
Aug 3 2022, 08:02 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,639 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I’m pretty sure they were all originally painted
I’ve owned a few and looked over a lot more Pretty sure they were originally painted |
wonkipop |
Aug 3 2022, 08:02 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,403 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
wow whats thet round plug above the K plate on a 6 all about. not there on my sh%tbucket 1.8. mysteries of the 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
mepstein |
Aug 3 2022, 08:05 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,315 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Looks like a Ziebart plug.
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wonkipop |
Aug 3 2022, 08:18 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,403 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Looks like a Ziebart plug. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) of course. forgive me. i live in a desert. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
Ishley |
Aug 3 2022, 08:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 4-October 21 From: Clarendon Hills Il Member No.: 25,957 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Thanks everyone
One thing that I can’t understand.. if the factory painted both hinge plates and the bolts then did they insert the unpainted hinge pin after. It seems they would have painted the doors off the car and then assembled it. If they did that I can’t believe the bolts would have been painted. |
nathanxnathan |
Aug 3 2022, 08:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 291 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks everyone One thing that I can’t understand.. if the factory painted both hinge plates and the bolts then did they insert the unpainted hinge pin after. It seems they would have painted the doors off the car and then assembled it. If they did that I can’t believe the bolts would have been painted. From what I have seen the area under the hinge is unpainted along with the pin so it stands to reason that, yeah, the mount plate was bolted to the car when they painted and then they put on the door with the pin. Weird though how they got the door aligned unless it was pretty standard across all the cars when they were new. |
mepstein |
Aug 3 2022, 09:02 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,315 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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