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Voltage Regulators, Who makes a good replacement? |
Brian Fuerbach |
Oct 12 2022, 01:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: 1-July 19 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 23,266 Region Association: Southern California |
I have a Bosch solid state regulator and have been noticing low and erratic charge rates lately. Swapped it for a nos Bosch mechanical reg that I had in my stash. Charge rate is 13.8-14v now, perfect but, the mechanical regulator gets pretty warm after running for awhile. I measured the case at 130F. Is this normal for a mechanical regulator?
I would like to get a solid state replacement but the Bosch regs cost almost $400. What gives? did they stop making them? What is the currently recommended replacement? |
johnhora |
Oct 12 2022, 03:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 866 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Derby City KY Member No.: 107 Region Association: None |
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emerygt350 |
Oct 12 2022, 03:25 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,131 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
I have the hella solid state. Has been flawless and inexpensive.
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914Sixer |
Oct 12 2022, 04:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,897 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I have two NOS solid state Bosch left. I can do $124 shipped for one. Agree that the prices are stupid for these. You might check your relay board, may be corroded under tar causing relay to heat up.
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Olympic 914 |
Oct 12 2022, 07:00 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,672 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States |
Am using a BERU solid state,
inexpensive and works fine. may have to modify mounting holes. |
DC_neun_vierzehn |
Oct 12 2022, 08:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 387 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have a Bosch solid state regulator and have been noticing low and erratic charge rates lately. Swapped it for a nos Bosch mechanical reg that I had in my stash. Charge rate is 13.8-14v now, perfect but, the mechanical regulator gets pretty warm after running for awhile. I measured the case at 130F. Is this normal for a mechanical regulator? I would like to get a solid state replacement but the Bosch regs cost almost $400. What gives? did they stop making them? What is the currently recommended replacement? @Brian_Fuerbach I still have a couple of NOS Bosch for sale: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=359337&hl= $65 shipped |
Van B |
Oct 12 2022, 09:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,612 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
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porschetub |
Oct 12 2022, 09:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,703 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
I have two NOS solid state Bosch left. I can do $124 shipped for one. Agree that the prices are stupid for these. You might check your relay board, may be corroded under tar causing relay to heat up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) undo the relay board and turn it over,if it's getting that hot the tar underneath may be melting,check all the large diameter positive wires for insulation heat damage also. Firstly check your heatgun ?. |
Brian Fuerbach |
Oct 12 2022, 10:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: 1-July 19 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 23,266 Region Association: Southern California |
I have two NOS solid state Bosch left. I can do $124 shipped for one. Agree that the prices are stupid for these. You might check your relay board, may be corroded under tar causing relay to heat up. I will pm you on the solid state reg. The ST reg I removed does NOT get hot, it just charges low at 13.2v max unloaded. The mechanical reg I replaced it with is new and was purchased a few years ago from a world member but never used. This mech reg gets hot but charge rates are correct. So a mechanical reg is not to supposed to get hot? |
Brian Fuerbach |
Oct 12 2022, 10:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: 1-July 19 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 23,266 Region Association: Southern California |
I have two NOS solid state Bosch left. I can do $124 shipped for one. Agree that the prices are stupid for these. You might check your relay board, may be corroded under tar causing relay to heat up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) undo the relay board and turn it over,if it's getting that hot the tar underneath may be melting,check all the large diameter positive wires for insulation heat damage also. Firstly check your heatgun ?. I looked at the bottom of the relay board and and it looks really good but the original solid state reg did not get hot. The mechanical replacement is getting hot. I measured the 130F with a Ratech IR non contact thermometer that has been recently checked against some known values so I believe it is correct. The reg seems to top out at 130 which was confirmed every time over a couple of drives. I have read on the google that “mechanical” regs act as heat sinks in their process of regulation. Anyone have a “Bosch mechanical” reg that can confirm running temp? At least touch. |
StarBear |
Oct 13 2022, 06:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
I have the hella solid state. Has been flawless and inexpensive. Hella didn’t work on my car at all. I’m surprised to hear of someone that was able to use it actually Van; yes, a few of the standard electrical replacement parts don’t work in some of our 1.8s yet do work in others’. Alternate flasher relays and Petronix just don’t work in mine. We’re special…. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
Lockwodo |
Oct 13 2022, 07:47 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 23-December 21 From: Santa Cruz, Californnia Member No.: 26,193 Region Association: Northern California |
Wondering if anyone has had this problem before. Car is a '74 2.0. Replaced voltage regulator with a new Hella unit. At 1000 rpm idle, voltage measured at the battery terminals was initially steady at 14.5 volts (too high), and now is fluctuating from 12.5 to 16.5 volts. Is that likely a bad regulator or could a problem elsewhere in the charging system produce that fluctuation?
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Van B |
Oct 13 2022, 09:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,612 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
@StarBear the Petronix works beautifully in my car. I can literally see the difference on the timing mark; rock steady.
But my experience with the budget Hella unit was exactly as @Lockwodo described. I now have two Bosch solid state units. The old style solid state delivers 14.29v consistently per my cheap multimeter. The new style gives 14.00v constantly. The only caveat I have is that both require a little throttle bump to get the voltage light to extinguish if you have a sluggish start in real cold weather. |
jim_hoyland |
Oct 13 2022, 09:28 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,313 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
Forgot the brand, but I found an adjustable VR
Been in the car 10+ years I’ll pull it and get a pic when I return home |
Lockwodo |
Oct 13 2022, 09:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 23-December 21 From: Santa Cruz, Californnia Member No.: 26,193 Region Association: Northern California |
Forgot the brand, but I found an adjustable VR Been in the car 10+ years I’ll pull it and get a pic when I return home (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
porschetub |
Oct 13 2022, 12:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,703 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) had issues with the Hella repop from Pelican ,with my newly reconed Bosch altenator (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ,bought a NOS Bosch one of Mark an all is fine.seem to remember they need to me matched by the sticker in the 911 enginebay. |
Geezer914 |
Oct 13 2022, 03:16 PM
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Geezer914 Group: Members Posts: 1,433 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States |
I purchased a mechanical Bosch regulator from Brian and tweaked it to put out just over 14 volts. You need a loose .012 between the contact points.
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Brian Fuerbach |
Oct 13 2022, 06:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: 1-July 19 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 23,266 Region Association: Southern California |
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windforfun |
Oct 13 2022, 07:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,822 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
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Highland |
Oct 14 2022, 09:57 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 513 Joined: 8-August 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 13,418 Region Association: Southern California |
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