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Oil Cooler Cleaning, Southern California |
gonzo54 |
Oct 20 2022, 11:29 AM
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Orange Crush Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 10-May 19 From: Seal Beach, CA Member No.: 23,112 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm looking for a Southern California Company to ultrasonic clean and test my oil cooler and hope to find someone reasonable that does not charge the "Aircraft Certification" prices I found.
Thanks in advance |
ndfrigi |
Oct 20 2022, 12:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,933 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,474 Region Association: Southern California |
Hi Rick, why not just remove the oil cooler (I beileved can be remove without dropping the engine) and clean it with diesel or some other cleaning liquid? And why do you need to clean it? Lots of old grease and dirt?
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brant |
Oct 20 2022, 02:43 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I believe both flushing with clean solvent and also ultra sonic are best
The 2nd cleaning certainly won’t hurt Especially if there is a chance of debris what so ever If you know it was on a blown motor in a previous life Replacement is the most safe option Sorry I don’t know providers for that service My engine builder always takes caution with used coolers |
gonzo54 |
Oct 20 2022, 02:48 PM
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Orange Crush Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 10-May 19 From: Seal Beach, CA Member No.: 23,112 Region Association: Southern California |
Hi Rick, why not just remove the oil cooler (I beileved can be remove without dropping the engine) and clean it with diesel or some other cleaning liquid? And why do you need to clean it? Lots of old grease and dirt? I'm rebuilding my engine (138,000 miles) and this the perfect time to have the cooler cleaned and tested. |
nathanxnathan |
Oct 20 2022, 03:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 283 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
I've always read that on rebuild it's best to replace the oil cooler. They've gone up a bit since I read that but they're not that expensive. Busdepot sells oem ones new
https://www.busdepot.com/021117021b |
mgphoto |
Oct 20 2022, 04:01 PM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm looking for a Southern California Company to ultrasonic clean and test my oil cooler and hope to find someone reasonable that does not charge the "Aircraft Certification" prices I found. Thanks in advance Check with some local hotrodders for the best radiator shop, cars & coffee is good for research. Cleaning oil cooler is the same process. Be advised the cost to clean will be the same as buying new except the tax and shipping, funny how it works out that way. If you decide to buy new, they are all made in China, go with a known company with customer service. |
jim_hoyland |
Oct 20 2022, 04:59 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,313 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
What are the dimensions ? I’ll see if it will fit in my new ultrasonic …
And you might want to consider the Tangerine Pressure Relief Valve, See: https://tangerineracing.com/shop/ols/search...escend_by_match I put one in at last rebuild…. |
bbrock |
Oct 20 2022, 05:27 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I've always read that on rebuild it's best to replace the oil cooler. They've gone up a bit since I read that but they're not that expensive. Busdepot sells oem ones new https://www.busdepot.com/021117021b Don't know if this is still current advice, but this post from one of the foremost type IV experts caught my eye on the older thread that was revived as part of this convo. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=2437822 |
nathanxnathan |
Oct 20 2022, 05:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 283 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
I've always read that on rebuild it's best to replace the oil cooler. They've gone up a bit since I read that but they're not that expensive. Busdepot sells oem ones new https://www.busdepot.com/021117021b Don't know if this is still current advice, but this post from one of the foremost type IV experts caught my eye on the older thread that was revived as part of this convo. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=2437822 It's hard to tell if Jake means new aftermarket when he says new, or if he means new oem. Busdepot does have the cheaper aftermarket, as well as the oem https://www.busdepot.com/021117021bmy |
gonzo54 |
Oct 20 2022, 08:43 PM
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Orange Crush Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 10-May 19 From: Seal Beach, CA Member No.: 23,112 Region Association: Southern California |
What are the dimensions ? I’ll see if it will fit in my new ultrasonic … And you might want to consider the Tangerine Pressure Relief Valve, See: https://tangerineracing.com/shop/ols/search...escend_by_match I put one in at last rebuild…. Jim, the dimentions are 8 1/2 x 3 3/8 x 3 3/8 deep. I found a old thread-comments are OEM units cools 10%-20% better than aftermarket. Would it fit in your cleaner? |
gonzo54 |
Oct 20 2022, 08:50 PM
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Orange Crush Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 10-May 19 From: Seal Beach, CA Member No.: 23,112 Region Association: Southern California |
I've always read that on rebuild it's best to replace the oil cooler. They've gone up a bit since I read that but they're not that expensive. Busdepot sells oem ones new https://www.busdepot.com/021117021b Don't know if this is still current advice, but this post from one of the foremost type IV experts caught my eye on the older thread that was revived as part of this convo. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=2437822 Thanks Brent, I read the same information from a very reliable source and have to follow the experts. |
930cabman |
Oct 21 2022, 04:58 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,128 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
I am new to ultrasonic cleaning so please excuse my ignorance, but if only the one part of a system is ultrasonically cleaned won't it soon be contaminated with the debris from the other parts that have not been cleaned as such?
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VaccaRabite |
Oct 21 2022, 07:41 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,456 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I am new to ultrasonic cleaning so please excuse my ignorance, but if only the one part of a system is ultrasonically cleaned won't it soon be contaminated with the debris from the other parts that have not been cleaned as such? A lot of the crap that comes off the oil cooler is the collected dirt and grease and general smut from between the cooling vanes, not from the interior oil passages. Zach |
Mikey914 |
Oct 21 2022, 11:07 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,677 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Hopefully the majority of the crid is captured in the filter.
Great time to buy an ultrasonic cleaner. |
Superhawk996 |
Oct 21 2022, 12:28 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,875 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I am new to ultrasonic cleaning so please excuse my ignorance, but if only the one part of a system is ultrasonically cleaned won't it soon be contaminated with the debris from the other parts that have not been cleaned as such? A lot of the crap that comes off the oil cooler is the collected dirt and grease and general smut from between the cooling vanes, not from the interior oil passages. Zach All the more reason to buy new or to take special care during cleaning to keep interior plugged with silicone plugs while cleaning the exterior. Makes no sense to “clean” it and let exterior crud get into the cooler internals. |
mepstein |
Oct 21 2022, 01:02 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,305 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I am new to ultrasonic cleaning so please excuse my ignorance, but if only the one part of a system is ultrasonically cleaned won't it soon be contaminated with the debris from the other parts that have not been cleaned as such? A lot of the crap that comes off the oil cooler is the collected dirt and grease and general smut from between the cooling vanes, not from the interior oil passages. Zach All the more reason to buy new or to take special care during cleaning to keep interior plugged with silicone plugs while cleaning the exterior. Makes no sense to “clean” it and let exterior crud get into the cooler internals. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Usually the internals are just oily. If you just want to clean the fins, plug up the cooler and his it with some brake clean, carb cleaner, whatever and rinse off. |
930cabman |
Oct 21 2022, 01:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,128 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
I am new to ultrasonic cleaning so please excuse my ignorance, but if only the one part of a system is ultrasonically cleaned won't it soon be contaminated with the debris from the other parts that have not been cleaned as such? A lot of the crap that comes off the oil cooler is the collected dirt and grease and general smut from between the cooling vanes, not from the interior oil passages. Zach All the more reason to buy new or to take special care during cleaning to keep interior plugged with silicone plugs while cleaning the exterior. Makes no sense to “clean” it and let exterior crud get into the cooler internals. Hate to admit, but the last engine I built I plugged up the suction(intake) side of the oil pump to keep the crud out. Worked great until I forgot about it and could not get oil pressure when cranking on the test bench. I fired it up and ran it for about 3 seconds, still NO oil pressure. Broke the entire thing down to discover a small piece of paper towel in the suction side. Put her back together and has been running strong with 55ish # of oil pressure. That was about 2k miles ago. One of the best things VW did was to incorporate a full flow oil filter. |
gonzo54 |
Oct 21 2022, 05:44 PM
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Orange Crush Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 10-May 19 From: Seal Beach, CA Member No.: 23,112 Region Association: Southern California |
I am new to ultrasonic cleaning so please excuse my ignorance, but if only the one part of a system is ultrasonically cleaned won't it soon be contaminated with the debris from the other parts that have not been cleaned as such? A lot of the crap that comes off the oil cooler is the collected dirt and grease and general smut from between the cooling vanes, not from the interior oil passages. Zach All the more reason to buy new or to take special care during cleaning to keep interior plugged with silicone plugs while cleaning the exterior. Makes no sense to “clean” it and let exterior crud get into the cooler internals. Good advice-Thanks for the tip |
stownsen914 |
Oct 21 2022, 06:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 913 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
The places that special in aircraft cert type cleaning do follow a process that involves an ultrasonic step + flushing, and maybe at the same time?
Pacific Oil Cooler used to do it, may still. https://www.oilcoolers.com/ Another is Piranah https://www.facebook.com/piranhaultrasoniccleaning/ A proper cleaning isn't cheap, unfortunately. |
SO.O.C914er |
Oct 21 2022, 09:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,257 Joined: 18-July 16 From: Mission Viejo Ca Member No.: 20,199 Region Association: Southern California |
Rick if you’re rebuilding buy new I did on my 2056 rebuild. You need to look at everything that will make that new motor run cooler and last longer…..drive on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Paul
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