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> Clutch Tube reweld???, AA says to do it....
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post Aug 18 2005, 02:59 PM
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I find that I have to keep tightening my clutch every couple of weeks. In an AA catalogue, one of their little window box tips says that if this happens then you need to reweld your clutch tube.
Is this true?
Where is the clutch tube located?
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post Aug 18 2005, 03:59 PM
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I have seen a number of cars which have had a small tab cut in the centre tunnel, forward of the shifter, in order to re-weld a (?) which holds the clutch tube in place. The shop in question would cut a 1 inch by 1 inch 3 sided cut in a pre-measured spot on the tunnel, then they would bend the tab of metal back out of the way, fiox the broken weld point and fold it back down.

I had noticed the scar on the tunnels of several of their cars and asked about it. I thought that might be what you are talking about.


Not to say that is your problem.
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post Aug 18 2005, 04:16 PM
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Here's the procedure: Step by Step Clutch Tube Repair

The clutch tube runs through the center tunnel and is welded in 3 places. Usually the front weld is the first one to break loose. Mine was broken in all 3 places so this guide will show you everything you might need.

It's a challenge, but you might be able to see the front weld with a mirror and flashlight. Put the mirror into the center tunnel next to the accelerator pedal. Otherwise, you'll have to release the tension on the cable so you can reach into the center tunnel and see if your tube can be moved around.

There is also a possibility that your cable is simply frayed and is in need of replacement.
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post Aug 18 2005, 04:40 PM
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Take your shifter out, look down, and depress the clutch.....

If it moves... You know why...

Cheap easy fix is to drill holes and use U clamps or J clamps.

Proper fix is to weld it.

Try and find the proper location....

thin air basically has it covered to do it properly.

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(I did mine.... twas evil....)

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post Aug 18 2005, 04:53 PM
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with my luck i would drill right through the center of the tube with brad's fix, if the bracket is torn away how do you get the weld in the correct area? if one fasioned a bracket, do you think the tube could be secured if it was welded at the very front of the opening for the shifter? or would it still allow the front of the tube to flex too much. btw, great write up!

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post Aug 18 2005, 04:54 PM
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Ernies repair is pretty extream, I guess it depends on how sound your car is.........easy method is to just drill a few 1/4" to 3/8" access holes on side of tunnel and spot weld the tube.....remove shifter, feel for tube, it's pretty simple and should be obvious after that........
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post Aug 18 2005, 04:59 PM
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Is there a post here from Brad and his repair?
(Just to compare)
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post Aug 18 2005, 05:04 PM
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i'm pulling my shifter after i get back from the vet's office. i don't have near the issues ernie did. somewhat irregular fiddling with the clutch adj.

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post Aug 18 2005, 05:09 PM
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I noticed in on the top of the tunnel my car there's a section that was cut and bent back, a few inches in front of the shifter. I was wondering what it was for. was this an earlier PO's clutch tube repair?
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post Aug 18 2005, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (Hammy @ Aug 18 2005, 04:09 PM)
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I noticed in on the top of the tunnel my car there's a section that was cut and bent back, a few inches in front of the shifter. I was wondering what it was for. was this an earlier PO's clutch tube repair?

does not sound like a repair job, more likely a hack job fo getting to the cables.......normally the repair is done on the drivers side of the tunnel
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post Aug 18 2005, 05:15 PM
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Damn.
Damn those half-ass PO's (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)
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post Aug 18 2005, 05:19 PM
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here's what the DAPO left me with ... isn't that pretty?

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post Aug 18 2005, 05:19 PM
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closeup of the hacked tunnel ...

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post Aug 18 2005, 05:21 PM
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and yes, do a search here, brad had a detailed thread with pictures on how to do the drill and spotweld fix.

also, check the back on the tube where it goes through the back firewall, mine came lose there was well ...

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post Aug 18 2005, 05:27 PM
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When I was 18 I tried to fix my clutch tube and hit the gas line (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)

I was under the car and I didn't see the flames untill it was too late!!

I learned to do my research well before I attempting repairs in the future!!

Take it slow and think it through, you will be fine! GL

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post Aug 18 2005, 05:28 PM
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Yesss... that's quite close to what mine looks like Andy, yet not as bad. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) hehe

but do you think it needs desperate attention in getting fixed back to normal... seems more like an annoyance to me than anything critical.. ? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)
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post Aug 18 2005, 05:30 PM
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Heck I made holes for it myself!!!

I dont care... Its easy access, and I can check lots of things.
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post Aug 18 2005, 05:31 PM
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looking at ernie's pictures again, the cut for the front bracket does start aout 2" forward of the shifter opening. i guess the front bracket is key to keeping the whole thing stable. i remember when b posted pictures long ago with just three cuts and the piece bent up. welding a couple of tabs on the piece to be removed and just pop riveted down would do the trick. heck, just rivet the tabs on. even easier next time around.

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post Aug 18 2005, 05:34 PM
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do a search (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) ...provide the link (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) . re:search. i think there are a number of people who have a difficult time getting good results (hand raised). i don't know why.

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post Aug 18 2005, 05:47 PM
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I originally posted mine because I figured my repair was about the worst that anyone could expect on this component and I'd never seen a thread that gave me all the steps so that I could do it without asking lots of questions first. My goal was to show the detail well enough to leave no mystery about how things go together.

Brad's approach for the front weld is certainly less invasive and therefore "cleaner", but in my case it did not work because of the way the bracket was broken and our inability to get the brazing cleaned up sufficiently to allow a clean weld. We had it welded once and it broke when we were using a hammer & screwdriver to re-round the rear end of the tube. This was was more certain of success for my particular situation.

Edit - Oops! I just went back and read my old thread. The last picture (before Mike welding) shows that we actually used Brad's method on the front because our first efforts failed. Apparently my memory failed on this one!

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