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zoomCat
post Aug 17 2024, 04:12 PM
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I'm in the process of restoring a factory six, and it's progressing at the pace it has decided it needs. No hurry, apparently. It has left a 914 shaped vacancy in my garage however, and I started to feel the void. I didn't wan't to rush the job, so I decided to look for something that was actually running.
This car came up for sale just a few miles from my house, by a well respected member of the local Porsche community. A very solid car, wasn't a hard decision.
The big money has been spent on converting it to a six. 2.7, front oil cooler, big brakes from PMB, LSD.

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It wasn't without some minor issues (50 year old car!) so it went to EvilWerks new location for a quick once over and some tinkering with the shift linkage. @Dr Evil had the right bits lying about, and the car now shifts as it really should. The oil leaks, however, will take a bit more attention, looks like the cam chain boxes are leaking; that will be another day.

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post Aug 17 2024, 04:32 PM
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Nice find. Always good to have one running 914 at all times. I had two down for a while and it sucked.
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post Aug 17 2024, 05:03 PM
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Nice car ! And a very nice floor lift. Who makes it ?
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post Aug 17 2024, 05:07 PM
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Nice car and great buy. Looking forward to seeing more photos. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Aug 17 2024, 05:41 PM
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Looks great, I recently had a 2.7 built by a local reputable Race guy, oil return tubes were leaking. Not sure how many either /4 or /6 engines are really oil tight.

Assuming little or no rust issues.
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post Aug 17 2024, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Aug 17 2024, 07:03 PM) *

Nice car ! And a very nice floor lift. Who makes it ?


According to Dr Evil, the proprietor:

https://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/amgo-h...ift-p/sml-7.htm
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post Aug 18 2024, 09:24 AM
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Interior is very clean and fairly original other than the steering wheel and the glove box badge. There is a battery cutoff tucked up on the side of the center console. The driver's carpet isn't installed, it has no grommets and climbs up under the petals; I'm working on that. I haven't yet opened the door panels to see if the frame was cut for speakers.
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Front Trunk has the battery box and oil cooler. The cooler is plumbed through the heater tube with braided line; I'm sure there are opinions about that. The round in the front panel have been removed, but there isn't any other ventilation. It should heat the battery, but I haven't done any measurements. Anyone have any experience with this kind of setup?
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The trunk shows signs of something applied to the rear corners under the shiny paint. I haven't looked too hard yet. Looking up from the bottom may reveal something.
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post Aug 18 2024, 09:31 AM
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Engine bay looks pretty good. Black cars are so dark in here. You can see that this car was originally yellow.

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Hell hole, with the battery moved to the front trunk there's space for an enormous fuel filter.
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How does it drive?
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post Aug 18 2024, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(mate914 @ Aug 18 2024, 12:10 PM) *

How does it drive?

It’s a hoot; it’s been a while since I’ve had any running 914 and it is spectacular fun. Motor makes glorious noises and runs with enthusiasm up to the redline. Handling seems very tight, although I haven’t been pushing too hard yet. Brakes are solid.
205/50-15 tires, so I can tell myself I’m going very fast, but low speed steering input is heavier than I anticipated.
I haven’t taken any trips more than 20-25 miles yet until I get some smaller stuff sorted out, the oil leaks onto the headers and generate a visible cloud which gets some scowls at traffic lights.
I have gotten a couple of thumbs up as well, but nobody has offered to buy it yet.
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post Aug 18 2024, 11:10 AM
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Very nice! Enjoy the ride!
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post Aug 19 2024, 03:32 PM
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Looks sweet and being "spectacular fun" what more could you possibly ask for AND she is an original /6 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)




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post Aug 19 2024, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(zoomCat @ Aug 18 2024, 11:24 AM) *


Front Trunk has the battery box and oil cooler. The cooler is plumbed through the heater tube with braided line; I'm sure there are opinions about that. The round in the front panel have been removed, but there isn't any other ventilation. It should heat the battery, but I haven't done any measurements. Anyone have any experience with this kind of setup?
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Nice looking 914. Looks like it really scoots.

About the oil cooler, you mention the round cut outs in the front panel are open to let air in. Is there a cutout in the front bumper to clear the holes for air?

Once air comes in through the holes, were does it escape? I didn't see any exhaust holes for the heated air.

Reminds me of the oil cooler in my 930 being located in the front fender directly behind the headlight fixture blocking the top 1/2 of the cooler while the lower half of the cooler only has a small opening below the bumper. While sitting still the cooler does nothing so I added a thermostat-driven fan which helps remove heat tremendously. I can see the oil temp plateau on the gauge when the fan kicks on.
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post Aug 20 2024, 07:15 AM
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Congrats on the new car.

Please get that fire hazard of a fuel filter and pressure gauge out of the engine compartment ASAP.
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post Aug 20 2024, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Aug 20 2024, 09:15 AM) *

Please get that fire hazard of a fuel filter and pressure gauge out of the engine compartment ASAP.

What is the specific concern? It’s a Malpassi Filter King which has been in production for some time, and I don’t see reports of issues.
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QUOTE(Spoke @ Aug 20 2024, 01:29 AM) *

About the oil cooler, you mention the round cut outs in the front panel are open to let air in. Is there a cutout in the front bumper to clear the holes for air?

Once air comes in through the holes, were does it escape? I didn't see any exhaust holes for the heated air.

Reminds me of the oil cooler in my 930 being located in the front fender directly behind the headlight fixture blocking the top 1/2 of the cooler while the lower half of the cooler only has a small opening below the bumper. While sitting still the cooler does nothing so I added a thermostat-driven fan which helps remove heat tremendously. I can see the oil temp plateau on the gauge when the fan kicks on.

There is no apparent escape for airflow, other than what filters into the interior and around the trunk gaskets. The engine has its original oil cooler so this cooler may not see much load in normal driving. I haven’t driven the longer than 40 minutes at a time so it may simply not have saturated the enclosed spaces in that short time. I’m thinking to set up a wireless barbecue temperature probe and see what actually is happening.

Here’s a shot of the openings behind the bumper:
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QUOTE(zoomCat @ Aug 20 2024, 12:02 PM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Aug 20 2024, 09:15 AM) *

Please get that fire hazard of a fuel filter and pressure gauge out of the engine compartment ASAP.

What is the specific concern? It’s a Malpassi Filter King which has been in production for some time, and I don’t see reports of issues.

It’s poor design practice to have a fuel filter in the engine compartment, particularly where leaking fuel (due to poor seals or a cracked glass fuel bowl) can leak down onto a hot exhaust system.

With respect to reports of issues, search this site and you’ll see the recent posts of vehicles totaled by engine bay fires.

In my opinion, there is no reason to take unnecessary risks. As always, it’s your car, you get to decide what to do.

Looks to be a very nice car - enjoy it!
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Aug 20 2024, 11:17 AM) *

QUOTE(zoomCat @ Aug 20 2024, 12:02 PM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Aug 20 2024, 09:15 AM) *

Please get that fire hazard of a fuel filter and pressure gauge out of the engine compartment ASAP.

What is the specific concern? It’s a Malpassi Filter King which has been in production for some time, and I don’t see reports of issues.

It’s poor design practice to have a fuel filter in the engine compartment, particularly where leaking fuel (due to poor seals or a cracked glass fuel bowl) can leak down onto a hot exhaust system.

With respect to reports of issues, search this site and you’ll see the recent posts of vehicles totaled by engine bay fires.

In my opinion, there is no reason to take unnecessary risks. As always, it’s your car, you get to decide what to do.

Looks to be a very nice car - enjoy it!


Trying to not be a jerk, but I have always had a fuel filter in the engine compartment
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post Aug 20 2024, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(zoomCat @ Aug 20 2024, 12:40 PM) *

QUOTE(Spoke @ Aug 20 2024, 01:29 AM) *

About the oil cooler, you mention the round cut outs in the front panel are open to let air in. Is there a cutout in the front bumper to clear the holes for air?

Once air comes in through the holes, were does it escape? I didn't see any exhaust holes for the heated air.

Reminds me of the oil cooler in my 930 being located in the front fender directly behind the headlight fixture blocking the top 1/2 of the cooler while the lower half of the cooler only has a small opening below the bumper. While sitting still the cooler does nothing so I added a thermostat-driven fan which helps remove heat tremendously. I can see the oil temp plateau on the gauge when the fan kicks on.

There is no apparent escape for airflow, other than what filters into the interior and around the trunk gaskets. The engine has its original oil cooler so this cooler may not see much load in normal driving. I haven’t driven the longer than 40 minutes at a time so it may simply not have saturated the enclosed spaces in that short time. I’m thinking to set up a wireless barbecue temperature probe and see what actually is happening.

Here’s a shot of the openings behind the bumper:
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You can always remove the round access panel from the bottom of the front trunk. They are held in with seam sealer. I removed them on my 6 conversion to give the air an exit point.
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post Aug 21 2024, 07:52 AM
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The black car is not the original 6; this is a 914-6 conversion he bought to drive while his 6 is getting restored. The visual giveaway is the reinforced later front trunk nose. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Also, I agree with Mark - I would provide some sort of exit for the hot air from the trunk. Be that the round access holes in the trunk floor or something else. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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