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| jim_hoyland |
Dec 26 2024, 04:52 PM
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,041 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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There are 4 Allen Head bolts holding the steering column to the frame above.
I need to loosen those bolts to lower steering column an inch; reason is the tach in my Getty dash won’t clear the steering column shroud. So, I’m attempting to lower the column to get room so the tach can be pulled out. But, the Allen head bolts are really tight; no arm strength was going to budge them. And, I don’t want to ruin the Allen bolt heads What is the solution to loosening those bolts ? |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Dec 26 2024, 04:54 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,222 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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A bigger lever arm on that Allen wrench. Maybe some penetrant if needed.
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| SirAndy |
Dec 26 2024, 05:08 PM
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
You don't need to lower the steering column.
You can simply remove the screws holding the face-plate to the Getty dash. I think there are 8? 6 on the face and 2 on the bottom? Don't remember exactly. Once those are out, you can angle the face-plate and remove any of the gauges. It helps to remove the steering wheel though to give you more room. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
| windforfun |
Dec 26 2024, 05:14 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,097 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None
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It's time for a pipe. And not the kind you smoke. A junk of 1/2" ID ogalvanized pipe can come in handy. Make sure the Allen wrench is properly seated. CTTOI, I have really short Allen wrenches that use a socket head. Tons of torque.
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| technicalninja |
Dec 26 2024, 05:18 PM
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SirAndy has the correct answer! But, should you need to remove them later... I almost never use L-shaped Allens anymore. I run Allen sockets like this: https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-drive-m...ASABEgKG7PD_BwE That "Icon" stuff is OK. Lots of other options available. Long ratchet, hand impact, electric impact, air impact, 3/8-1/2 adaptor and up. You can quickly get to the point of snapping the fastener or the tool... |
| sixnotfour |
Dec 26 2024, 06:13 PM
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,183 Joined: 12-September 04 Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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Hope you get a solution.. saw your message late last night...
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| jim_hoyland |
Dec 26 2024, 06:58 PM
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,041 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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thanks; that gives some new ideas,
I have the sockets and an electric impact wrench. Will try that first; can always remove the steering wheel ( which I’ve done several times, but want a quicker way to make room) |
| Root_Werks |
Dec 26 2024, 07:04 PM
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Careful with the impact tool. Maybe try the rachet first. It's a lot more leverage than an "L" wrench and might do the trick.
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| jim_hoyland |
Dec 26 2024, 07:27 PM
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,041 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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| Root_Werks |
Dec 27 2024, 12:48 PM
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Village Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,929 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Yikes, those are really in there. Welp, impact it is I guess. Maybe the hammering will knock them free?
Doubt they are torqued to 200+ftlbs. Certain you already tried "tighten" them slightly just to break them free. Penetrating oil and time are your friends as well as heat. Although not sure you could safely heat up the bolt given it's location. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
| technicalninja |
Dec 27 2024, 01:05 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,531 Joined: 31-January 23 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 27,135 Region Association: Southwest Region
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If I can get to the threaded section, I'll hose it down with the best penetrate I've found for ferrous, PIMP JUICE!
1/2 ATF (old school Dex III) and 1/2 acetone. Works so much better than anything you can buy. On dissimilar metal (steel to aluminum) or any alloy I use wintergreen oil (health food store type) and it's slower than the PJ but it works great too. An added benefit, your shop smells like Christmas! This stuff MELTS caterpillars like nothing else in this world! One TINY drop and it's over... Best stuff for an "asp" infected bush! |
| rfinegan |
Dec 27 2024, 02:37 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,194 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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A hand impact/ hammer with Allen socket and the shorter extension possible would be my next try...
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| jim_hoyland |
Dec 27 2024, 05:49 PM
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,041 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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| jim_hoyland |
Mar 7 2025, 05:13 PM
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,041 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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Update: Had to use a cheater them to loosen. Six complete turns gives enough room to access my tach. Never size a must !
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| sixnotfour |
Mar 7 2025, 08:59 PM
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