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oakdalecurtis
post Jun 12 2025, 10:52 AM
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76 2.0, 130,000 miles. I used to run Brad Penn 30 with high ZDDP, a very “ sticky” oil. It stopped the little bit of smoking from the exhaust. (probably worn rings). The newer oil is called Penn oil, and I don’t think it’s the same as the original Brad Penn formulation. Now the engine is smoking a little again. Can anyone recommend a replacement/equivalent oil to my old stickyBrad Penn oil?
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post Jun 12 2025, 11:18 AM
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Actually the old Brad Penn (green oil) was rebadged A DECADE ago as PENN GRADE 1, Same formulation. Other than your car smoking ...again, after 10 years Id say it seems to have held up pretty well?
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post Jun 12 2025, 11:35 AM
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I can't recommend an oil to help your car stop smoking, but I can say I moved from Brad Penn to Driven DT50 once the oil formula changed. I'll be moving to Driven GP-1 for my autocross car soon to better handle the heat soak it gets with 2 drivers.
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post Jun 12 2025, 11:44 AM
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I found if you remove you rear view mirrors it doesn’t smoke at all
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post Jun 12 2025, 01:06 PM
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You could try some of those magic sauces at the flaps, at 130000 it's gonna be smokey.
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post Jun 12 2025, 02:45 PM
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I use Driven 15w/50w oil. You said your seeing smoke at the tail pipe. Do you need to add oil after so many miles to top off your oil? If so how much?
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post Jun 12 2025, 03:14 PM
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Amsoil z rod is now my go to
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post Jun 13 2025, 04:27 AM
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QUOTE(Front yard mechanic @ Jun 12 2025, 10:44 AM) *

I found if you remove you rear view mirrors it doesn’t smoke at all

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post Jun 13 2025, 12:52 PM
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I’m thinking if trying Amsoiil zrod oil. I live in California with a warmer climate. Any opinion whether I should use 10-40 or 20-50 wt?
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post Jun 13 2025, 01:41 PM
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Castrol 20W50 was the recommended air cooled oil for eons, I use the Brad Penn 20W50 synthetic blend

I remember asking an old VW mechanic years ago for a recommended brand; "Any clean oil is better than dirty oil".
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post Jun 13 2025, 04:11 PM
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What's the important properties beside Zinc, that make you guys so dedicated to one brand or another?

I see some awfully cheap oils with significant zinc numbers.
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post Jun 13 2025, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(Artfrombama @ Jun 13 2025, 01:41 PM) *

Castrol 20W50 was the recommended air cooled oil for eons, I use the Brad Penn 20W50 synthetic blend

I remember asking an old VW mechanic years ago for a recommended brand; "Any clean oil is better than dirty oil".


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) been using Castrol 20 50 for decades, never had a failure attributed to an oil issue
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post Jun 13 2025, 07:23 PM
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In olden times, people used crazy stuff like this.


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post Jun 14 2025, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(bkrantz @ Jun 13 2025, 07:23 PM) *

In olden times, people used crazy stuff like this.


Remember it well, never used it, but often wondered how it works mixing with oil OR fuel?

maybe snake oil?

"Gold Circle" how many decades since we shopped there?
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post Jun 14 2025, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Literati914 @ Jun 13 2025, 06:11 PM) *

What's the important properties beside Zinc, that make you guys so dedicated to one brand or another?

Oil is a religion
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post Jun 14 2025, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(Literati914 @ Jun 13 2025, 05:11 PM) *

What's the important properties beside Zinc, that make you guys so dedicated to one brand or another?



Good advertising! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Seriously, I switched to Brad Penn because it was designed for older cars with flat tappet engines, at the time it was one of the very few on the market.

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post Jun 14 2025, 05:48 PM
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Driven oil is recommended by Jake Raby. He helped develop this oil for 914's after Brad Penn changed formulas. I add 4 oz. of Marvel Mystery Oil to every other fill up to clean the injectors.. Mistery oil, it's a mystery how it works. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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post Jun 15 2025, 05:33 AM
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QUOTE(bkrantz @ Jun 13 2025, 09:23 PM) *

In olden times, people used crazy stuff like this.


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