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| chmillman |
Sep 7 2025, 10:03 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 15-June 24 From: Switzerland Member No.: 28,183 Region Association: Europe
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Right now the MPS in my car is mounted with some sheet metal screws and old squished rubber grommets. Not at all the original mountings... Didn't see any suppliers for OE-style replacements anywhere near here, so I am looking at re-mounting it on some rubber standoffs like this:
10mm in diameter, 10mm high, M4 threaded studs (Form "SS"). Three different Shore A hardnesses available, 40, 55 and 70. The same ones without the "necking down" in the middle are also possible: The idea is to mount the standoffs to the body sheet metal and then be able to easily bolt/unbolt the MPS on the protruding studs with M4 locknuts and flat washers. What do you think? The mounting should be soft enough to damp out vibration but not so soft to allow the thing to shake significantly. |
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| Ishley |
Sep 7 2025, 11:00 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 4-October 21 From: Clarendon Hills Il Member No.: 25,957 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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McMaster Carr has rubber grommets that will work with the original mounts.
https://www.mcmaster.com/products/rubber-wa...s/grommets-1~~/ |
| 914Sixer |
Sep 7 2025, 11:31 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,397 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region
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NEW ones are NOT available. Might be able to use new gromet and install metal piece. Might take one to ACE Hardware see what you find.
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| JamesM |
Sep 7 2025, 02:16 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,180 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Only real downside I have seen with using the stand off mounts is it puts the MPS into the fuel rail. they work but it gets really tight. |
| chmillman |
Sep 7 2025, 02:22 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 15-June 24 From: Switzerland Member No.: 28,183 Region Association: Europe
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Only real downside I have seen with using the stand off mounts is it puts the MPS into the fuel rail. they work but it gets really tight. Hmm, OK, at 10mm height, I think it will only add 6mm or so over the original mount. I do have a couple of other ideas for a flatter solution if that is indeed too much. The original mounting parts are long gone. |
| JeffBowlsby |
Sep 7 2025, 03:26 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,165 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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| chmillman |
Sep 8 2025, 03:15 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 15-June 24 From: Switzerland Member No.: 28,183 Region Association: Europe
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Hi Jeff, There are lots of rubber grommet possibilities here, but since I don't have the original sizes, I don't really know what to order yet. I take it that the openings on the MPS sheet metal support go into the grommet "slits" and the screws bolt through the centers with a metal insert that keeps the grommets from compressing too much? I can probably engineer something like that here, I thought the standoffs above would be an interesting solution allowing a variable amount of flexibility as well as easier mounting. |
| FlacaProductions |
Sep 8 2025, 07:42 AM
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I'm looking for something on this as well. I think a grommet should be easy enough it's just finding an appropriate metal insert. I can't figure out what to call it in order to initiate a search.
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| chmillman |
Sep 8 2025, 11:12 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 15-June 24 From: Switzerland Member No.: 28,183 Region Association: Europe
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I'm looking for something on this as well. I think a grommet should be easy enough it's just finding an appropriate metal insert. I can't figure out what to call it in order to initiate a search. Basically it could just be a bushing that has an OD that is the same as the ID of the grommet and an ID the same as the bolt through it, the height being about the height of the grommet. You might find a good starting point at a local ardware store and modify it to your needs. |
| JeffBowlsby |
Sep 8 2025, 05:04 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,165 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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The original rubber grommet:
OD 16mm ID 9mm 6mm Thick The ID of the metal bushing is 7mm. I think if you look around an acceptable solution can be derived. Attached thumbnail(s) |
| chmillman |
Sep 9 2025, 01:19 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 15-June 24 From: Switzerland Member No.: 28,183 Region Association: Europe
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The original rubber grommet: OD 16mm ID 9mm 6mm Thick The ID of the metal bushing is 7mm. I think if you look around an acceptable solution can be derived. Hey Jeff, Thanks for the dimensions and the image! : (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) The bushings I can fab here - I have a small toolmaker's lathe - so I just have to look around for some grommets that are around that size. Edit - found these in my collection. The one on the left is 16mm OD, the one on the right about 18mm, both around 9mm ID with groove diameter abut 13mm. The groove diameters may not be quite small enough, but probably can be made to work. |
| JeffBowlsby |
Sep 9 2025, 08:10 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,165 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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Nice Mitch!
The groove diameter of the original is 11mm, it may compress enough to squeeze into the bracket. |
| 914Sixer |
Sep 17 2025, 04:04 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,397 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Went to ACE hardware and went through all the bronze bearings and the grommets in electrical dept, nothing came close. Spent 1/2 hour.
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| JamesM |
Sep 19 2025, 12:38 AM
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Went to ACE hardware and went through all the bronze bearings and the grommets in electrical dept, nothing came close. Spent 1/2 hour. I prefer to work from home https://www.mcmaster.com/products/grommets/grommets-1~~/ https://www.mcmaster.com/products/flanged-spacers/ |
| FlacaProductions |
Sep 19 2025, 08:27 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,132 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California
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I was also working from home and got this back from my local Porsche dealer concerning the grommets:
I am following up on a request for x4 of P/N: 113-957-855. Total cost before taxes for these parts will be $57.48. That's a NO. |
| JeffBowlsby |
Sep 19 2025, 10:30 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,165 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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QUOTE I prefer to work from home https://www.mcmaster.com/products/grommets/grommets-1~~/ https://www.mcmaster.com/products/flanged-spacers/ Which McMaster Carr PNs of these works for the intended purpose? |
| JeffBowlsby |
Sep 19 2025, 10:38 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,165 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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I was also working from home and got this back from my local Porsche dealer concerning the grommets: I am following up on a request for x4 of P/N: 113-957-855. Total cost before taxes for these parts will be $57.48. That's a NO. Only 3 rubber sleeves are needed per MPS. $5.88 each from Sunset Porsche https://www.sunsetporscheparts.com/search?s...str=113-957-855 Its a reasonable cost for the real deal part. The PN for the metal sleeve is 311-906-057, which is NLA so find it used or improvise a substitute. |
| FlacaProductions |
Sep 19 2025, 11:56 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,132 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California
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Correct on 3 needed - but I like spares.
$5.88 is fine but the quote of Estimated shipping to Batesville, IN $39.80 is a non-starter. EDIT: I just emailed sun coast to see about reasonable shipping given their small size. I'm not hopeful. |
| chmillman |
Sep 19 2025, 02:22 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 15-June 24 From: Switzerland Member No.: 28,183 Region Association: Europe
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Did a Google search for the grommet part number…
Apparently used elsewhere besides a 914 MPS… AA seems to have them in the US. Available from a number of suppliers here in Europe. Issue is still shipping I guess, cheap if you live in the same country as the supplier, otherwise probably need to combine the order with other stuff. As for the metal bushing, not really sure you need a flange, just the correct length of metal tubing of the right diameters might be enough. Those that have access to a lathe can easily fab the bushings (or mod something existing that is close) themselves. |
| FlacaProductions |
Sep 19 2025, 04:20 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,132 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California
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Yup - not real hard to find but everyone's shipping (including AA) is just bonkers on something like this. I guess if you can combine with other items on an order, you might do ok but on their own....ridiculous.
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